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Re: Gun Ban

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Jun Fri 30, 2017 9:48 am

http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... gets-shot/
good for her defending herself
There are fake equalizers, like affirmative action, and there are real equalizers, like firearms. Ask Dianne Feinstein and many other hypocrite liberals who want your guns confiscated yet carry themselves.

from...ROLLING STONE
Confessions of a Liberal Gun Lover
By Christopher Ketcham
On happy nights of writing I like to take a break, walk out in the backyard and squeeze off a dozen or so rounds with the Mini-14 — and don't you dare try and stop me.
Its interesting to note the author alludes to the politically correct Ruger - Mini 14, despite the fact that even Maura Healey, by now, has to know, there is not a licks worth of real difference between a Mini 14 and an AR-15. No doubt the author owns one of the good wood stock versions of the Mini and not the bad ,all black, mean looking, synthetic polymer version.

Firearms arms are also great deterrents. Would the burglar in the video gone back into the house, even if he was a drug addled addict, if he knew the woman was armed?

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Re: Gun Ban

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... 7132ce2bd5

It makes no sense at all, ban AR-15's but Ruger mini's are OK only liberals see the logic
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Jun Fri 30, 2017 10:12 am

We are talking legal guns here and not a figment of maura...

What about the triple illegal shootings in Chicago this year, all 1700+ of them...

Does maura ever think about that which is beyond the narrow field of her blinders??
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Re: Gun Ban

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Does maura ever think about that which is beyond the narrow field of her blinders??
A Herald Columnist writing today about Maura Healey's credibility in reference to the recent evidence witholding controversy her office is involved in, says,
"Who you going to believe, the politician or the judge"
Healey's tendency to cross or fudge the law for political reasons is finally being questioned. Although things may come down to the old, Hillary, Ben Gahzi, defense. Healey is either corrupt as the day is long or she is totally incompetent. It got Hillary off - so far. Its also not clear, at this point, if Healey's office can shield her from prosecution. One thing is clear. Healey, like Coakley before her, is pure politician in an office where that trait could be put to a great deal of abuse and damage.

Blinders? Nah. I think she knew exactly what she was doing
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Jul Sat 08, 2017 9:23 am

A North Carolina priest may want to practice what he preaches.

William Rian Adams, 35, was arrested in connection with a road rage incident on Florida's Turnpike near Palm City Wednesday after pulling out a gun, according to the Florida Highway Patrol.

According to an FHP report, Adams -- a priest at Calvary Episcopal Church in Fletcher, N.C. -- was driving a red Chevrolet Corvette when he "attempted to brake-check" another vehicle, a Chevrolet Silverado pick-up truck, that was closely following his Corvette.

"As the victim attempted to pass the Corvette, the driver [Adams] pointed a semi-automatic hand gun at them," read the report
The occupants of the pick-up truck were a man, 24, and a woman, 54, from St. Cloud, Florida.

The gun, a Glock 22, was taken to the St. Lucie County Sheriff’s Office and submitted as evidence.

After the victim and Adams were interviewed by FHP officers, Adams was arrested and charged with two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
Even the priests are packing, expecting a threat. Edgy fear prevails, thanks NRA...

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Jul Sat 08, 2017 10:42 am

Edgy fear prevails, thanks NRA...
And Donald Trump too. He must have had something to do with it - somehow - no doubt.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Jul Sat 08, 2017 5:08 pm

The Founders' Intent of the 2nd Amendment - "On The Right to Bear Arms"
To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self - defense, or by partial orders of towns, counties, or districts of state, is to demolish every constitution and lay the law prostrate so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of government. The fundamental law of the militia is that it be created, and directed, and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws.
John Adams "A defense of the Constitution"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKMnf8ojzq0
I wonder if Maura Healey knows who John Adams is?

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Jul Sat 22, 2017 8:52 am

During Barack Obama’s presidency, the number of concealed-carry permit holders increased by a whopping 256 percent. The numbers have increased across multiple demographics, with a higher percentage growth for women than men and for black citizens than white. In eleven states at least 10 percent of the adults possess carry permits. All told, 16.36 million Americans have carry permits, a number that understates the amount of people who carry weapons, since 14 states “have adopted constitutional carry in all or part of the state” — which means that no permit is required for citizens to carry a gun.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... d-america

America is a gun culture, getting more so all the time. Case closed. This guy thinks putting a Glock in his purse is akin to a religious experience. For him, maybe so...

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Jul Sat 22, 2017 9:32 am

During Barack Obama’s presidency, the number of concealed-carry permit holders increased by a whopping 256 percent
No fooling??

Why would we invite rheam and the chi-towners here???

Good luck with a dnc armed takedown...
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Jul Sat 22, 2017 1:28 pm

from "National Review"
"America Is Changing — One Carry Permit at a Time
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... od-america
All told, 16.36 million Americans have carry permits, a number that understates the amount of people who carry weapons, since 14 states “have adopted constitutional carry in all or part of the state” — which means that no permit is required for citizens to carry a gun.
Wow! A "well regulated militia" just waiting to happen!" This is exciting!
At the same time that carry permits have increased at an astonishing rate, violent crime has decreased, and concealed-carry permit holders remain remarkably law-abiding. From 2007 to 2015, murder rates decreased by 12.5 percent and “overall violent crime fell by 18 percent.” At the same time, “the percentage of adults with permits soared by 190 percent.” And yet despite that growth, available data still indicate that permit holders are substantially more law-abiding than the police. For example, using data from Florida and Texas, Lott found that “permit holders are convicted of misdemeanors and felonies at less than a sixth of the rate for police officers.”
The left knows fully well the carnage it would initiate in attempting to disarm the American people, either overtly or covertly. Yet it persists. That fact has to beg the question - WHY? Why on Earth would the left risk starting a civil war if not the fact it just plain hates America?
It’s often said that politics is downstream from culture, and for conservatives those words so often mean that we’re losing ground. The ground is shifting beneath our feet on matters involving sexuality and marriage. But the news is not all bad, and culture change does not always run to the left. The pro-life movement stands strong, and the ground is shifting beneath progressives’ feet on guns. An armed citizenry is more likely to remain a free citizenry, and free citizens are more likely to maintain the independence and courage that have long been hallmarks of the American spirit. In this important respect our nation is changing for the better — one carry permit at a time.

Ultimate power must remain in the hands of the people - not Maura Healey!

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Jul Fri 28, 2017 4:19 pm

More Fun With Definitions - Re-interpretation v Re-writing
A different twist

There is a lot of speculation afoot on how AG Healey will defend the gun ban case brought against her in court. What would seem indefensible by any standard of logic anywhere else in the known universe may have a life here in Massachusetts where common sense has often taken a back seat to political need.

One tried and true method around any law is to use an, uh, fluid approach in the definitions of words. Usually that means a word ,such as marriage for example, will morph into something far different from what we have traditionally taken it to mean. AG Healey will try something a little different. She will argue how two words usually taken to mean the same thing actually mean something different. The two words are re-interpreting and re-writing as they apply to the Massachusetts law defining certain black semi automatic rifles.

Healey will argue her ban of July 16, 2016, in which she unilaterally placed thousands of Massachusetts gun owners in a precariously criminal spot, was legal since re-interpretation is not rewriting. To re-write a law would require going through the state legislature which AG Healey had absolutely no time for in those strange days just before the Democratic presidential convention. She had but one window of opportunity to make her mark.

For all intents and purposes it is not the definition of these two verbs that should make the difference in this or any court case. Only in Massachusetts could a case such as this be won by word play - leaving the effect it will have on thousands of law abiding Massachusetts lives as secondary in importance.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Aug Fri 04, 2017 5:12 pm

"Cape Republican Lawyer To Take On AG Maura Healey"
By State House News Service | July 24, 2017 to "New Boston Post"
http://newbostonpost.com/2017/07/24/cap ... ra-healey/
“One reason we’re supporting him — he’s conservative,” Daxland told the News Service about McMahon.

Though MARA does not officially endorse candidates until they have qualified for the ballot, Daxland said that McMahon believes in the same “common sense principles” that the assembly stands for, including adherence to the Second Amendment and opposition to making Massachusetts a “sanctuary state,” an idea that is opposed by conservatives who favor a stricter stance against illegal immigration.
Then there's this... Healey's office again accused of withholding evidence
''Mass GOP Attacks AG Healey’s Office About Judge’s ‘Misconduct’ Finding in Drug Lab Review" June 29, 2017
http://newbostonpost.com/2017/06/29/mas ... ab-review/
Hughes on Thursday interpreted the news, in a press release issued by MassGOP, as an example of “concealing evidence” and a “cover up” of mistakes in the drug lab scandal, the consequences of which, she said, “could lead ‘thousands’ of convicted drug dealers being freed.”

Said Hughes:

“The only thing worse than the gross incompetence of Maura Healey’s office during this case is her office’s effort to deceive the public and cover up mistakes. With thousands more drug cases now tainted due to the AGO’s inability to own up to its errors, Healey should apologize for her office’s misconduct that could have lasting and dangerous consequences for our state’s criminal justice system.”
"Apologize"! She should resign!! This looks like a developing pattern of corruption.
"Mass. AG Healey doubles down on refusal to disclose details of gun law interpretation process"
http://newbostonpost.com/2016/09/28/mas ... n-process/
In explaining her decision not to release certain materials to Reinhart, Tarrow cited several public records exemptions, including statutes dealing with the “deliberative process” exemption and a claim that releasing such records “relating to the security or safety of persons or buildings within the commonwealth, where public safety is likely to be jeopardized.”

Reinhart in his appeal argued that the deliberation process ended after Healey issued the order, meaning the exemption should no longer apply.
Mass. AG Healey directed to revise response to ‘copycat’ weapon ban information request
By Evan Lips September 21, 2016
http://newbostonpost.com/2016/09/21/mas ... a-request/
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Re: Gun Ban

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NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch.

Another inflammatory video from the National Rife Association went viral Friday afternoon.

In a short video, NRA spokesperson and conservative firebrand Dana Loesch threatened a "laser-focus" on the New York Times, dubbing the paper "pretentious" and "tone-deaf" without specifying what issues the NRA has with the Times' reporting.

"We've had it with your narratives, your propaganda, your fake news," Loesch said. "We've had it with your constant protection of your Democrat overlords, your refusal to acknowledge any truth that upsets the fragile construct that you believe is real life."

"Consider this the shot across your proverbial bow," she added. "We've going to fisk the New York Times and find out just what deep, rich means to this old, gray hag."

The 54-second clip, which was released in April, was reposted on the NRA's social media account on Thursday, but went largely unnoticed until Friday afternoon.

The ad sparked backlash on social media, as critics said the video had a threatening tone.
Wow, she's tough. 300 million guns and counting...doesn't she look at the stats? She could focus on safety, sportsmanship, citizenship, recreational shooting, hunting...nah, gotta keep the right wing whine going, ad nauseous...

The poor persecution act is getting stale...

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Aug Sat 05, 2017 7:42 am

No guns in venezuela, does this make you happy??

Our Second says that we may have them, whatever maura says...
This is not an albore magical mystery tour... It has all been well thought out...
Unlike your alice dream...
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from...
From guns to drugs, AG Healey fields questions in Lowell
By Prudence Brighton, Sun Correspondent
Updated: 05/22/2017 11:24:29 PM EDT
http://www.lowellsun.com/breakingnews/c ... ons-lowell
Healey said she has been doing town-hall meetings across the state. "Now more than ever" it is important for Americans to come out for discussions on these topics.

She said she is encouraged by the "tremendous" public engagement she has seen since November. "This is a really, really good thing. It's not just a moment. It's a movement," she told the audience that filled the school's auditorium.
Maura Healey will clean up Massachusetts? Is that what all this is?
https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/ser ... che=565561
Laws, in nanny state Massachusetts, often start out as something fairly benign but change over time into something quite different. Usually though, in Massachusetts - even now, laws change by going through the state legislature. Unless, of course, you are a fearless, lesbian, Attorney General on a mission.
But gun rights advocates were also in the audience. One challenged her action last July to include in the state's assault weapons ban any copies or duplicates of banned guns.

She explained that the state has had an assault weapons ban since 1998. It is the law, and it was written to cover any future updates and additions to the list. "I will uphold yhe law"
Maura will uphold her version of the law even if she has to break the law to do it.


COMMENTS... Some important points...

annio • 3 months ago
"I will uphold the law." No, sweetums, you REWROTE the law. HEALEY MUST GO.

Juanito Ibañez annio • 3 months ago
Charge her criminally under 18 U.S. Code § 241 – Conspiracy Against Rights – and § 242 – Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law, and sue her in her personal capacity under 42 U.S. Code § 1983 – Civil Action for Deprivation of Rights.

Maybe that will get her attention.

ramrodd • 3 months ago
The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and `is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power." [Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]


ed_the_fresh_baker ramrodd • 3 months ago
not absolute, at least according to the late Justice Scalia (District of Columbia v. Heller) "that regulation of gun ownership was compatible with the Second Amendment:' if it can be regulated , its not absolute....

ramrodd ed_the_fresh_baker • 3 months ago
If you are one that believes the Supreme Court is the final arbiter of what
is lawful and constitutional, then you have believed a lie and a myth that
Jefferson warned about. The States still retain their rights to this day to defy the federal judiciary, which has become an oligarchy. We just need strong statesmen as governors and legislatures to make that stand!

In writing to William Jarvis, Jefferson said, "You seem . . .
to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy."

The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in the constitution of the federal Judiciary; an irresponsible body (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow) working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped."

ed_the_fresh_baker ramrodd • 3 months ago
let anarchy reign.....

Stranger in a Strange Land ed_the_fresh_baker • 3 months ago
That is ignorant and here is why..... gun owners are asking that the law be respected, not abolished....law and order via The Constitution is not anarchy it is freedom.

QueensKnight ramrodd • 3 months ago
Life is cheap in this state, don't depend on the system that has failded so many.


Prester Kahn • 3 months ago
Did anyone ask her about her disconnect on who has rights under the Constitution? She supports foreign residents having rights (her opposition to the travel ban) but doesn't support rights for American citizens here at home (expanding the rifle ban by reinterpreting the law and opposing national reciprocity of CCWs.

ramrodd • 3 months ago
New Yorks 1,000,000 new illegal gun owners..

REFUSED TO REGISTER THEIR GUNS....

One million plus new felons, all armed with scary, high capacity, media labeled assault weapons! The deadline for New York residents to register their so called “Assault Weapons” and “High” (read standard) Capacity Magazines came and went.

An estimated million plus, formerly law abiding, gun owners have refused to comply with Cuomo and down state Democrat’s naive belief that the NY Safe Act, passed in a so called emergency session of the New York legislature, could force free people to register their hard earned property.

And who can blame these once lawful gun owners, with a president that picks and chooses which laws he will follow or enforce, as well as an Federal Attorney General that operates daily with a Contempt of Congress charge and gun running scandal, “Fast & Furious”, hanging over his head. Why should the average New York joe, bother to follow the law, especially when it is in direct conflict with the Constitution of the United States, the one true law of the land.

forbes, ammoland etc etc

ramrodd • 3 months ago
Mental health is the avenue to gun control..

American Psychiatric Asso: Half of Americans are mentally ill..
After crafting by politicians and Media all will be crazy except for them..

300 million prescriptions for psychiatric drugs were written in 2009 alone..
Your children on medication for ADHD?
Single woman with children diagnosed with depression?
be careful what you ask for

cotuit • 3 months ago
If the A.G. is interested, the Heller decision makes Mass. " assault weapons ban" , unconstitutional.


debid13065 • 3 months ago
It's not hard to vote, register and get your butt to the poles. WTH

ramrodd • 3 months ago
There are over 370 "mental disorders" listed in the latest version of the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.) The list includes "Tobacco Addiction Disorder" among other equally mundane and ridiculous so-called "mental illnesses."

If the DSM is the standard by which politicians wishes to remove our rights to own guns, then I'd guess 90% of the American people could probably be classified with a mental disorder of one kind or another.

BEWARE, BEWARE[/quote]

My favorite comment...
Juanito Ibañez annio • 3 months ago
Charge her criminally under 18 U.S. Code § 241 – Conspiracy Against Rights – and § 242 – Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law, and sue her in her personal capacity under 42 U.S. Code § 1983 – Civil Action for Deprivation of Rights.

Maybe that will get her attention.
Anyone running for Attorney General against Maura may be interested...
Massachusetts officials often enjoy immunity from prosecution for wrong doings while in office. I've heard the decision whether to prosecute has to do with whether or not the immunity is qualified Not sure if this is true or what the legal distinction is. Anything? Anyone?

What if someone from her own office were to challenge her? Wouldn't that be telling?

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Sep Mon 18, 2017 4:57 pm

Maura Healey should follow her own advice
Opinion posted on August 1, 2017 in the Lowell Sun by DAN GANNON
https://www.massgunrights.com/lte-maura ... ow-advice/
It appears that Maura’s “irony police” missed this one. On July 20, 2016, Healey
“pulled the rug out from under” gun owners and retailers with no notice or public discussion
by announcing she was reinterpreting 18 years of gun laws “that had been carefully crafted
and worked on” by the Legislature many times. Her actions were “unfair, and make no
sense” as there has only been a dozen or so deaths by all rifles in Massachusetts going
back more than a decade.
So many of Maura Healey's actions as Massachusetts Attorney General , intended to thrive in a far different political climate, will now just amount to a huge economic burden for the state. Exxon is just one of many illbegotten lawsuits scheduled to come back and bite The Commonwealth , not Maura personally, right in the butt. We have to ask ourselves where will we be after another four years of this kind of fearless progressive litigation.

Liberal AGs' Exxon Mobil holy war running out of steam
OPINION by Brian McNicoll |in the Washington Examiner, Jun 2, 2017, 12:01 AM
If it can be established Schneiderman essentially deputized green groups to form a
politically motivated case, his federal suit against Exxon Mobil could be thrown out, and its
countersuit against him for harassment would get a major boost.
Some think Schneiderman already has crossed the line. In March, the attorneys general of
11 states wrote a friend of the court brief in which they accused Schneiderman and Maura

Healey, attorney general of Massachusetts, of "an unconstitutional abuse of investigative power" and "textbook viewpoint discrimination.
Oh The Irony!!
5 Investigates exposes secret deals for officers in trouble - The Carney Letters
article for WCVB by Mike Beaudet, Updated: 10:05 AM EST Nov 16, 2016
5 Investigates' Mike Beaudet found, through a series of public records requests,
records of nearly two dozen immunity agreements, known as Carney letters, given to
police officers across the state in the last five years. But the system for keeping track of
these cases is disorganized, making it likely there are still more immunity deals that have
been cut. Supporters of these agreements, including Attorney General Maura Healey, say they are a
way for police departments to investigate suspected police wrongdoing when the case is
not prosecutable or the officer plans to invoke his or her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
"Is this treatment special treatment for officers?" Beaudet asked AG Healey.
"No. To the contrary, I think all of these situations are taken very seriously," Healey replied.
Carney is actually a way to hold police officers accountable for alleged wrongdoing when there isn't a way to proceed criminally against that officer.
So what legally separates these law officers from an A.G. - who is supposedly the chief law officer in the state? If she did not know of the pending consequences of actions such as the Gun Ban she certainly must know now. It is scary to speculate if maybe she doesn't. It's scarier yet to speculate where we will be in 2020.

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Post by Mac66 » Sep Tue 19, 2017 5:25 pm

No worries about guns or gun access, Vladdy, Plenty now, more coming...
According to Reuters sources, aides to President Donald Trump - which these days mostly includes retired army generals - are completing a plan to shift oversight of international non-military firearms sales from the State Department to the Commerce Department. The difference is that while the State Department is primarily concerned about international threats to stability and maintains tight restrictions on weapons deals, the Commerce Department typically focuses more on facilitating trade, in other words growing it.

“The NSC is working through the interagency process with the State Department and the Department of Commerce to ensure that U.S. industries have every advantage in the global marketplace, while at the same time ensuring the responsible export of arms,” said an official with the White House National Security Council.

And that's how Trump repays the NRA for its support during his campaign: the National Rifle Association spent more than $30 million in support of his candidacy. “I am going to come through for you,” Trump told the NRA convention in April.

He now has.

The new rules will reportedly cut government red tape and regulatory costs, boosting U.S. exports of small arms and creating jobs at home.

“There will be more leeway to do arms sales,” one senior administration official said. “You could really turn the spigot on if you do it the right way.”

The push fits both Trump’s support for the gun lobby espoused on the campaign trail and his “Buy American” agenda.

Critics, among them lawmakers and arms control advocates, have expressed concern that any easing of export rules could make powerful weapons of the type often used in U.S. mass shootings more accessible to criminal gangs and militants that Trump has vowed to fight. Of course, Trump has also vowed to stimulate the economy and having failed to do so so far, will take whatever he can get.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Joseph » Sep Tue 19, 2017 10:47 pm

Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Sep Wed 20, 2017 4:59 am

woooo,

Little wonder why they were banned in soviet union, hitler's germany, cuba, venezuela, china, massachusetts and chicago...
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Oct Tue 03, 2017 9:28 pm

When they woke up and glanced at their phones on Monday morning, Americans may have been shocked to learn that the man behind the mass shooting in Las Vegas late on Sunday was an anti-Trump liberal who liked Rachel Maddow and MoveOn.org, that the F.B.I. had already linked him to the Islamic State, and that mainstream news organizations were suppressing that he had recently converted to Islam.

They were shocking, gruesome revelations. They were also entirely false — and widely spread by Google and Facebook.
In Google’s case, trolls from 4Chan, a notoriously toxic online message board with a vocal far-right contingent, had spent the night scheming about how to pin the shooting on liberals. One of their discussion threads, in which they wrongly identified the gunman, was picked up by Google’s “top stories” module, and spent hours at the top of the site’s search results for that man’s name.

In Facebook’s case, an official “safety check” page for the Las Vegas shooting prominently displayed a post from a site called “Alt-Right News.” The post incorrectly identified the shooter and described him as a Trump-hating liberal. In addition, some users saw a story on a “trending topic” page on Facebook for the shooting that was published by Sputnik, a news agency controlled by the Russian government. The story’s headline claimed, incorrectly, that the F.B.I. had linked the shooter with the “Daesh terror group.”
Millions looking to these companies for news. Bad business, bad journalism, lots of bad information. And like mass killings, this won’t stop.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Oct Wed 04, 2017 5:15 am

Bad business, bad journalism, lots of bad information. And like mass killings, this won’t stop.
Are you speaking of main street media, NYT, rolling stones or what??

The anomaly is that he was white, albeit with a black heart...

There were more homicides in Chicago alone last year in a gun free city only with little mention... What are you typing about??
Suspect that Chicago ( rahm town ) will rule the stats this year again with no comment...

Let us know when you have some facts...
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Oct Wed 04, 2017 7:21 am

Are you speaking of main street media, NYT, rolling stones or what??
No. Read it again, slowly this time.

Facts? 300 million guns and counting. 100 or so killed by guns every day. No appetite for change, not even reinstating the ban on military style weapons. We all need AR-15's right?

Democrats saying stupid stuff all the time. What a gift HC is to the right, human lightening rod...

The only thing the right has is fake moments of silence for the dead and the left is full of emotional basket cases. Pathetic.

This is over. new solution: no gun laws whatsoever. Prove you're 18 and not crazy, you can buy anything. it's the right's wet dream come true.Why pretend there's any middle ground on anything anymore? The repubs can't do anything about health care, immigration, roads and bridges, foreign policy. Zip. It's stupid to think they will get anything done resembling anything sensible around solving mass killings.

Not gonna happen.

Open carry anything, guns in church, in preschool, everywhere. Why not?

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Re: Gun Ban

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Oct Wed 04, 2017 8:31 am

Facts? 300 million guns and counting.
Good, keep em coming... Try downing the bad guys for a change ya dumb skull!!

And keep yer dirty pink digits off of my denim too...

Bet the creepy perp @ Lost Wages is a pinko too!!! He just hates believers and had to show it...

All melting down like the house of cards which has already fallen... Got anyone else to run??
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by MCasper » Oct Thu 05, 2017 6:54 am

Mac66 wrote:
Oct Wed 04, 2017 7:21 am
Are you speaking of main street media, NYT, rolling stones or what??
No. Read it again, slowly this time.

Facts? 300 million guns and counting. 100 or so killed by guns every day. No appetite for change, not even reinstating the ban on military style weapons. We all need AR-15's right?

Democrats saying stupid stuff all the time. What a gift HC is to the right, human lightning rod...

The only thing the right has is fake moments of silence for the dead and the left is full of emotional basket cases. Pathetic.

This is over. new solution: no gun laws whatsoever. Prove you're 18 and not crazy, you can buy anything. it's the right's wet dream come true.Why pretend there's any middle ground on anything anymore? The repubs can't do anything about health care, immigration, roads and bridges, foreign policy. Zip. It's stupid to think they will get anything done resembling anything sensible around solving mass killings.

Not gonna happen.

Open carry anything, guns in church, in preschool, everywhere. Why not?
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Oct Thu 05, 2017 7:18 am

Not to mention the 10s of millions of guns that helped to keep the peace that day...

It's an old saw, pinkos, get over it... You want no guns?? Go to Chicago, Cuba, Venezuela...

It is not the good guys who are performing these acts of evil...

Betcha the guy who did Las Vegas was a lefty... What point did he make??
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Oct Thu 05, 2017 8:01 am

Liberals like lying with statistics
"Twist facts to hide low murder rates in pro-gun states"
http://www.bostonherald.com/opinion/op_ ... ald.com%29
opinion by Michael Graham Thursday, October 05, 2017
There are lies, damn lies and gun statistics — particularly in the hands of a Massachusetts liberal.

Within hours of the horrific shooting in Las Vegas, the writers at The Boston Globe-Democrat hit their function keys and out came the usual knee-jerk, fact-challenged, anti-gun puffery. One piece took the local angle: “Making Gun Safety A State Fight, Too.”

The tip-off to anti-gun bias is in the headline. As Molly Hooper, appearing on CBS News, put it, “Gun safety is the new term the Democrats are using. Instead of ‘gun control’ it’s ‘gun safety.’ ”

Yes, the left is burying “gun control” in the same rhetorical black hole as “global warming,” and for the same reason: They’re losing.

Is it because blue state liberals don’t understand the gun issue, or they’re just incapable of being honest about it? Consider this from the Globe-Democrat:

Massachusetts is regularly one of the states with the lowest rates of gun deaths from either homicides or suicides. “We are the NRA’s worst nightmare,” said John Rosenthal, co-founder of Stop Handgun Violence. “We have proven that gun laws work.”

Uh-huh.

It is true that Massachusetts is “one of the states” with low gun-death rates. According to the FBI’s Unified Crime Report for 2015, Massachusetts has the 7th-lowest murder/non-negligent homicide rate, behind states like New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine, and tied with Idaho.

You know what those other states also have in common — besides a lower murder rate than Massachusetts? Pro-Second Amendment gun laws.

These states all make it easier to buy and own guns. They all have “constitutional carry” laws making it legal to carry a handgun without an additional license. They are so non-Boston-Globe-compliant that they got graded either D or F by the pro-gun-control … er “gun safety” organization, the Law Center To Prevent Gun Violence.

Ah, but that’s the overall murder rate, Graham, not the gun homicide rate the Globies are talking about. Oh, OK. Using that metric, Massachusetts drops to 13th, behind such stalwarts of blue state gun restrictionism as the Dakotas, Iowa and West Virginia.

(For any Globe readers who might be confused, that was sarcasm.)

In their push to get Massachusetts to add even more gun laws, the Globe claims that “seven of the 10 states with the strictest gun laws also make the list of the 10 states with the fewest gun deaths per 100,000.” But they get this stat from the aforementioned anti-gun group.

According to the CDC’s latest available data, 2014, only one of the top 10 states got better than a C from the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence (Hawaii with an A-), and eight have either D or F ratings.

If you find these statistics confusing, imagine how poor Leah Libresco feels? She’s a former statistician with the respected FiveThirtyEight.com data research group. As she wrote in The Washington Post this week, she began her research “analyzing all 33,000 lives ended by guns each year” with a pro-gun control bias. Alas, she discovered that “the case for the policies I’d lobbied for crumbled when I examined the evidence.”

“By the time we published, I didn’t believe in many of the [anti-gun] interventions I’d heard politicians tout,” she wrote. “I can’t endorse policies whose only selling point is that gun owners hate them.”

Don’t worry, Leah. Maybe you can’t, but Massachusetts liberals sure can.
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Oct Fri 06, 2017 5:16 am

Truth not only matters but even sets us FREE... ( at last )

MLK sure was right in that one cannot judge a person by his color, however one's politics doth give the store away...
Watching democrats become fascist communists over the years certainly was an ugly sight in mine eyes...
Shrillary was ready to erase the borders, feed us communism light, and sweet buggar all...

It's whats in the heart!!!

What is in your heart?? Are you a turtle?? You bet your sweet ass I am...
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Re: Gun Ban

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Joseph » Oct Tue 17, 2017 9:57 am

How does Las Vegas fit in with The Agenda for gun confiscation?

See:
https://youtu.be/zNqxUuyHFzc

And how CONVENIENT that November is ...

"Critical Infrastructure Security and Resilience Month"


See:
https://www.dhs.gov/cisr-month

Rahm Emmanuel tells us what it's all about:
https://youtu.be/Pb-YuhFWCr4
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Eric K » Oct Tue 17, 2017 6:58 pm

The first video was interesting. Needs more looking into.
Got me thinking when they showed part of the Tom Cruise movie. Is Hollywood part of the conditioning for what to expect in the future and for us to except.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Oct Tue 17, 2017 7:54 pm

The Constitution as savior: AG Healey speaks at Smith
AG Healey Co opts Constitution While Preaching to the Choir. Such a smooth operator
http://www.gazettenet.com/Attorney-gene ... e-12584214
“As long as this president or anyone else wants to threaten our interests or our residents, we’re going to keep using the Constitution to stand up to them,” Healey said.
So Healey refers to illegal aliens or Dreamers as "our residents". Healey would be a much better Attorney General if she had a broader view of just who "our residents" are. I just wish it included me
Healey’s speech was part of Smith’s observance of Constitution Day, and she repeatedly noted the power of “one of the greatest documents in world history.”

“It’s a document that lives and breathes,” said Healey, saying that what makes the document special were the values and the principles that each generation “breathes into it.”
Good Grief! There are not many on the planet who have displayed more contempt of the Constitution than Maura Healey and her progressives. This will be obvious as so many of her litigations against Trump and other interests fall to ashes at her feet. If only Hillary had been elected.
While acknowledging that the Constitution “is not perfect,” Healey explained how its equal protection clause had been successfully used to challenge DOMA and get it ruled unconstitutional.DOMA defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman under federal law, and made it so states without same-sex marriage did not have to recognize the legality of same-sex marriages performed in states where it was legal.
Now where exactly is Maura going with this. It is true California is making noises about succession and her own state Massachusetts is only just behind California progressiveness. Is 50 strong city states better than one strong United States. I truly believe Maura believes it is. Why doesn't she just come out and say that? Well, of course , we know why. This is someone who does not believes in a strong United States but is merely paying lip service to the idea of the Constitution - as shiftless Democrates are wont to do..
Much of the 26-minute speech was devoted to criticizing Trump and his policies, with Healey accusing him of bragging about assaulting women, taking issue with a number of his cabinet appointees and slamming him for his repeal of DACA, or Deferred Actions on Childhood Arrivals, which she characterized as an attack on Americans. DACA protects hundreds of thousands of young non-citizens who were brought to the United States when they were children from deportation.
Maura should think of this when she attends rallies to encourage seven year olds to become transgender
“Even I didn’t think it would be so soon or so often,” said Healey, which drew another round of applause.
Maura was speaking at Snith College.
Healey pointed to her office’s efforts in fighting both iterations of executive orders restricting travel from a number of Muslim-majority countries, which she characterized as Muslim bans, and spoke about speaking to a professor, originally from Iran, who was detained as a result of the first order in January.

“Once again the Constitution was there for us,” said Healey, noting how the first executive order was struck down in the courts.
But of course it wasn't struck down by the courts.

Richard Nixon broke the law. Maura wouls have served us all much better by coming out and being specific how Donald Trump has broken the law. And as far as recruiting Barbara Jordon... Maura ought to consider the difference between Senator Jordon's perspective and that of gimme girl Maxine Waters

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Oct Sun 22, 2017 1:56 pm

Post revisited...
The Constitution as savior: AG Healey speaks at Smith
AG Healey Co opts Constitution While Preaching to the Choir. Such a smooth operator
http://www.gazettenet.com/Attorney-gene ... e-12584214
“As long as this president or anyone else wants to threaten our interests or our residents, we’re going to keep using the Constitution to stand up to them,” Healey said.
So Healey refers to illegal aliens or Dreamers as "our residents". Healey would be a much better Attorney General if she had a broader view of just who "our residents" are. I can only wish my demographic was included in her view of "our residents''.
Healey’s speech was part of Smith’s observance of Constitution Day, and she repeatedly noted the power of “one of the greatest documents in world history.”
“It’s a document that lives and breathes,” said Healey, saying that what makes the document special were the values and the principles that each generation “breathes into it.”
Good Grief! There are not many on the planet who have displayed more contempt of the Constitution than Maura Healey and her progressives. This will be obvious as so many of her arbitrary litigations against Trump and other interests, she does not approve of, fall to ashes at her feet. If only Hillary had been elected.
While acknowledging that the Constitution “is not perfect,” Healey explained how its equal protection clause had been successfully used to challenge DOMA and get it ruled unconstitutional.DOMA defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman under federal law, and made it so states without same-sex marriage did not have to recognize the legality of same-sex marriages performed in states where it was legal.
Now where exactly is Maura going with this. It is true California is making noises about succession and her own state, Massachusetts, is only just behind California style progressiveness. Is she saying 50 strong city states are better than one strong United States. I truly believe Maura believes it is while praising the Constitution at the same time. Why doesn't she just come out and say what she thinks. This is someone who does not believe in a strong United States but is merely paying lip service to the idea of the Constitution - as shiftless swamp donkees tend to do..
Much of the 26-minute speech was devoted to criticizing Trump and his policies, with Healey accusing him of bragging about assaulting women, taking issue with a number of his cabinet appointees and slamming him for his repeal of DACA, or Deferred Actions on Childhood Arrivals, which she characterized as an attack on Americans. DACA protects hundreds of thousands of young non-citizens who were brought to the United States when they were children from deportation.
Maura should think of the time she devotes to suing and bashing Trump when she attends rallies intended to encourage seven year olds to become transgender.
“Even I didn’t think it would be so soon or so often,” said Healey, which drew another round of applause.
Maura was speaking at Snith College.
Healey pointed to her office’s efforts in fighting both iterations of executive orders restricting travel from a number of Muslim-majority countries, which she characterized as Muslim bans, and spoke about speaking to a professor, originally from Iran, who was detained as a result of the first order in January.
“Once again the Constitution was there for us,” said Healey, noting how the first executive order was struck down in the courts.
But of course there is nothing in the Constitution to contradict Trumps actions. The courts were reacting emotionally and politically to Trump's election.

Richard Nixon broke the law. Maura would have served us all much better by coming out and being specific about how Donald Trump has broken the law. And as far as recruiting Barbara Jordon... Maura ought to consider the difference between Senator Jordon's political perspective and that of Senator Maxine Waters

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by bobkat » Oct Mon 23, 2017 3:49 pm

Vlad_Rap you know what I love about rightwing nuts like you. You are against abortion because you say it kills children but your not against keeping guns out of the hands of people that kill children .You can not have it both ways. Remember there is a big difference between a hunting rifle and a rifle made just to kill people. Have a nice day. Oh before I go U.S. Supreme Court didn’t rule that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual’s right to own a gun until 2008, when District of Columbia v. Heller. Conservative Chief Justice Warren Burger also said the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered individual right to a gun. "A fraud on the American public."

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Oct Mon 23, 2017 4:21 pm

Still in the tank for isisisis and fascists?? Same uniform, save on halloween specials...

What happened to your party and the manifesto anyway, they failed without you??
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Oct Mon 23, 2017 6:43 pm

Well it goes to show how much Warren Burger had his head up his ass. Thank goodness Trump will appoint more conservatives to the court, shoring up the right of Americans to own and carry firearms. 2008 decision is now settled law.


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Re: Gun Ban

Post by bobkat » Oct Mon 23, 2017 8:43 pm

JIMD wrote:
Oct Mon 23, 2017 6:43 pm
Well it goes to show how much Warren Burger had his head up his ass. Thank goodness Trump will appoint more conservatives to the court, shoring up the right of Americans to own and carry firearms. 2008 decision is now settled law.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSizVpfqFtw
JIMD don't you think the youtube video would have been better if the were kids standing in the field. There is no reason to own an AR-15

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Oct Tue 24, 2017 6:53 am

What a stupid remark
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Oct Tue 24, 2017 7:15 am

bobkat,

The cold war is over... Russia, the eastern block, cuba, venezuela, communist party of amerika and you have lost.. Get over it...

OK, we have round two coming now with the likes of bill/hillary rosenberg trials...
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