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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by clover » Mar Wed 15, 2017 8:04 pm

The following information is for everyone who would like to read it, except Seahag.

I didn't find these minutes when I went to the Town's website, but this one meeting was out there when I googled for Airport Commission minutes. Now, when I go back to the Town's website, the minutes are there. Strange. Anyway, the moving of the fence is apparently part of a "fence relocation project" and is part of a grant request. Those grants are usually lacking in detail on the agendas, so minutes are helpful.

Now, it's just my opinion, but I think those of us who didn't know about these minutes are now smarter. Too bad Seahag wants to be a dummy her whole life.

http://www.marshfield-ma.gov/sites/mars ... 101816.pdf

MEETING MINUTES - Marshfield Airport Commission
Date of Meeting - Tuesday October 18, 2016
Place - Terminal Building, George Harlow Field

7. CIP/AIP Projects - Chris Willenborg

ASG and George Harlow Field (GHG) Team will be attending the FAA/MassDOT Five Year
Airport Capital Improvement Program (CIP) meeting on Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 10:30
AM. The meeting will take place in the conference room at MassDOT’s offices at the Logan
Office Center. Last month, the GHG Airport Commission reviewed the proposed Five Year CIP.

ASG prepared and submitted the MassDOT grant pre-application forms for the FAA FY 2017
AIP projects to Denise Garcia on Friday, October 14, 2016. The two projects identified on the
pre-applications were the Taxiway A TOFA Fence Relocation Project and Wildlife Hazard
Assessment. Typically, these documents are provided to MassDOT following the annual airport
CIP meeting with FAA and MassDOT, however MassDOT requested these forms prior to this
year’s meeting.

On September 30, 2016, Rich Lasdin of ASG walked the existing fence line at GHG with Airport
Manager David Dinneen. The purpose of the visit was to further evaluate a future airport fence
project that would tie into the existing airport perimeter fence and provide a complete airport
perimeter fence line. The focus areas are located at the ends of Runway 6/24

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Mar Wed 15, 2017 11:17 pm

It has been pointed out at Airport Commission meetings that the posted agendas are vague and cryptic.
Just making references to 'AIP' projects is obviously a ploy to not call attention to impacts and keep the public in the dark. And the airport commission is notorious for using evasion and delay tactics - along with 'smoke and mirrors.'

What projects? What activities?

Then you have the President of Shoreline leering at you or taking pictures from the shadows. C-R-E-E-P-Y.

Seems like it would be important to monitor what grants the airport is receiving. FAA grants come with strings attached. A grant could require that the airport continue operating for 20 years -- and it is important to now be planning for CLOSURE of Marshfield airport and the future usage of the property. Planning for conversion to recreational, residential, agricultural and conservation uses should have started already.

Ending the 'sweetheart' deal of leasing town property to a private for-profit corporation that caters to the rich (A crony-capitalism set-up.), needs to happen when the current lease with Shoreline Aviation nears the end. Then, the town can hire and operate - and collect revenues - while phasing in the transition to uses that SERVE THE TOWN AND ITS' RESIDENTS.
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Seahag » Mar Thu 16, 2017 10:05 am

I simply asked you and the others to go to the advertised Airport meeting and ask your questions there, instead of jumping to a conclusion.

I am not going to dignify any more of your remarks and conclusions. We already know that you are the smartest person in the room.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Mar Thu 16, 2017 10:37 am

Oh - I get it. I need to check my privilege at the 'door' before entering The Forum.
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Seahag » Mar Thu 16, 2017 3:08 pm

I wasn't referring to you, Joseph, I was replying to Clover's nasty comments to me a few posts above.
I think the Minutes from the October 2016 Airport meeting spell out pretty plainly what is intended for the fence. I guess they're just getting around to taking that action, and yes, it does seem unreasonable, especially if you live on Woodbine Road.
Maybe one of you will go to the meeting tonight and ask your questions and report back.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by clover » Mar Thu 16, 2017 3:13 pm

Seahag wrote:Maybe one of you will go to the meeting tonight and ask your questions and report back.
There is no meeting this afternoon/tonight. It has been cancelled. Finding out where the fence is going will have to wait for another day.

It's confusing that there was no plan available for the BOPW works meeting on Monday when the Airport Commission minutes clearly show a plan in the works months ago.

Another thing that's confusing is whether a certain fence placement would have to go to Town Meeting. I guess it depends on how much impact the fence has on the layout. Mass General Law Chapter 82, Section 23 says this:

Section 23. No town way or private way which has been laid out, relocated or altered by the selectmen or road commissioners shall, except as hereinafter provided, be established until such laying out, relocation or alteration, with the boundaries and measurements of the way, is filed in the office of the town clerk and, not less than seven days thereafter, is accepted by the town at a town meeting. This section shall not apply to cities.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Mar Sat 18, 2017 10:46 pm

http://www.danspapers.com/2017/03/east- ... -supremes/

People are waking up to the abuse and harm inflicted upon the general public by the despotic FAA and 'airport gangs' around the country.
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Apr Tue 11, 2017 11:10 am

Disgusting.
Late night noisy, startling jet arrival over Fieldston last night.
Apparently the 'jet-set' doesn't consider the residents to be humans.
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Carson » Apr Thu 13, 2017 3:17 pm

How about the helicopters,National Guard, training going on which is night and day now!Did we sign up for this?I feel like we are in the middle of a military zone!

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Apr Fri 14, 2017 8:49 am

Is it not obvious that the airport gang has NO concern or regard for the residents or the environment?

It has been admitted and PUT INTO WRITING that reduction of distance and destruction of vegetation between the airport and residences makes life WORSE for the residents. Yet, the towns 'officials' and our 'legislators' have supported and condoned the existence and EXPANSION of Marshfield airport.

Watch out- the 'gang' will be (has already) schemed to extend the life of the Marshfield airport.

For the safety, well-being and health of the residents and the environment Marshfield airport MUST be closed ASAP.
Then, we can figure what to do with the THOUSANDS of toxic copper-chrome-arsenic impregnated pilings in the freshwater wetlands that were part of the airport EXPANSION project construction. We can also plan for sane, sustainable and environmentally-friendly usage of that TOWN-OWNED land.
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What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Apr Fri 28, 2017 12:41 am

Smell that jet exhaust around Marshfield airport?

"Study finds how polluting nanoparticles get into blood and damage hearts

REUTERS/LUKE MACGREGOR

By Kate Kelland | LONDON
Inhaled nanoparticles like those pumped out in vehicle exhausts can work their way through the lungs and into the bloodstream where they can raise the risk of heart attack and stroke, scientists said on Wednesday.
....

Most worryingly, the researchers said at a briefing in London, the nanoparticles tend to build up in damaged blood vessels of people who already suffer from coronary heart disease – the condition that causes heart attacks - and make it worse.

...."


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17S1J9
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » May Mon 15, 2017 11:22 pm

Every week there are incidents involving 'private jets' like the ones flying in/out at Marshfield.

Now ANOTHER crash. This jet flew from New Jersey to Bedford, Mass. Then, on the way back to New Jersey it smashes into the ground and explodes.

"A jet crashed into a building near a small airport on Monday, killing two crew members and sparking a fire that sent thick, black smoke spewing into the air, authorities said.

Police said no passengers were aboard the Learjet 35 when it went down around 3:30 p.m. Monday about a quarter of a mile from the runway..."


http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow ... story.html
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » May Tue 16, 2017 7:26 am

From another published story on the most recent small jet crash:

"Connie Bovino, chairwoman of Hackensack’s condo and co-op advisory board, said she has been concerned about low-flying planes for some time. She favors a flight path that takes planes south along the Route 17 corridor, which she said would be less hazardous.

“We’re concerned with the high-rises; we’re concerned with the hospital and the schools … they’re going over lower and lower,” Bovino said. “It’s a shame that something like this has to happen before they realize we’ve got to make changes. It’s crazy.”"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ber ... 323499001/

This could be Marshfield. Or rather - it's only a matter of time.
Then, MAYBE, the 'yea-sayers' at town meeting, and those in the Chamber of Commerce and Jim Cantwell will maybe, possibly reflect on their decisions to support or push for the EXPANSION of Marshfield airport.

Imagine, overriding environmental regulations and common sense in order to JAM an EXPANDED ENLARGED airport into an environmentally sensitive and very important area- including into a Residential R-1 Zone - to cater to a very few rich people?

Marshfield Airport MUST be closed. To serve the interests of the residents and taxpayers the land must be used for housing, recreation, agriculture and conservation.
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What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Eric K » May Tue 16, 2017 8:48 pm

No housing, even though the piling that were pounded in would probably support a tall building.
I believe a camp ground would be a great asset to town.
More of an asset part of the year than an airport all year.
It would have more positive economic impact in relation to restaurants, retailers, the town's beaches. It would be a great source of income for the town itself and establishments with in town.
Of course, the chamber of commerce would disagree.
We all know the chamber likes to push projects that benefit a few and cost the tax payers a lot of money like the maritime center. Let's not forget the airport either.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Carson » May Thu 18, 2017 5:30 pm

Joseph wrote:From another published story on the most recent small jet crash:

"Connie Bovino, chairwoman of Hackensack’s condo and co-op advisory board, said she has been concerned about low-flying planes for some time. She favors a flight path that takes planes south along the Route 17 corridor, which she said would be less hazardous.

“We’re concerned with the high-rises; we’re concerned with the hospital and the schools … they’re going over lower and lower,” Bovino said. “It’s a shame that something like this has to happen before they realize we’ve got to make changes. It’s crazy.”"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ber ... 323499001/

This could be Marshfield. Or rather - it's only a matter of time.
Then, MAYBE, the 'yea-sayers' at town meeting, and those in the Chamber of Commerce and Jim Cantwell will maybe, possibly reflect on their decisions to support or push for the EXPANSION of Marshfield airport.

Imagine, overriding environmental regulations and common sense in order to JAM an EXPANDED ENLARGED airport into an environmentally sensitive and very important area- including into a Residential R-1 Zone - to cater to a very few rich people?

Marshfield Airport MUST be closed. To serve the interests of the residents and taxpayers the land must be used for housing, recreation, agriculture and conservation.

Have always said it is just a matter of time.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Jun Sat 10, 2017 6:09 am

MARSHFIELD AIR POLLUTION- JET EXHAUST
Saturday, June 10

In connection with jet operations at Marshfield this morning: Conditions favor prolonged periods of concentrations of jet exhaust during jet operations in areas northeast of Marshfield Airport. This includes parts of Fieldston and Rexhame in particular. Residents on Ocean Street, Taft Road, Country Way, Plymouth Avenue and adjacent streets be aware.

Jet exhaust emissions can be hazardous to people and pets. Please take necessary precautions to limit exposure.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17S1J9
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Jun Mon 12, 2017 2:49 pm

Looks like jet model known as the "Citation Encore" is now operating at Marshfield airport.

Here is some info about that model from online:

"The cabin, which can hold eight passengers in fully reclinable seats, stretches to seventeen feet, five inches – the longest cabin of any light private jet. ... A newly-designed airstair entryway makes boarding a lot less challenging, especially for passengers in high heels. The Encore has storage space for 43 cubic feet of exterior baggage plus 28 cubic feet in the interior, or more than 1,400 pounds."

The Cessna Citation Encore can takeoff from a sea level runway in 3,490 feet."

Get that last part? This plane needs 3,490 feet for takeoff. Remember, the EXPANDED ("reconstructed") runway went from 2,999 feet to 4,000 feet in length - plus, from 75 to 100 feet wide.

GET IT?

As Selectman John Hall said - the 'new' airport is about THE JETS.

Thanks, Jim Cantwell.
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Eric K » Jun Tue 13, 2017 9:25 am

It's all about benefiting business not the taxpayer. Business in center of town ( maybe elsewhere ) gets free parking on town owned land and the parents pay a field fee so their children can play sports.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Jun Tue 13, 2017 12:21 pm

This is about the new partners: Democrats and Crony Capitalists --the Cronycrats.

When you see the head of the Democrat Town Committee out on the town with the head of the Chamber of Commerce...'nuf said.
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Eric K » Jun Tue 13, 2017 3:57 pm

I should correct the "not the taxpayer " as business ( as far as I know in this town ) pays taxes. I should refer to it as " residential taxpayer ".

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