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Re: PATRIOTS

Post by lost cause » May Mon 18, 2015 2:19 pm

The Wells report states that they would have gone to McNally and met with him at a time and place of his convenience, which happens all of the time with depositions. Yet they wouldn't allow it when the Wells group found the texts relating to the word "deflater" which I don't think anybody but the patriots believe refers to weight loss.

The Patriots and Brady are in a tough position here, they have to appeal to the Commissioner who at best would probably reduce the suspensions and fines, but is unlikely to eliminate them.

If Brady then takes this to court, he would have to option but turn over all texts and emails in regards to this which could be embarrassing for him.
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Post by lost cause » May Tue 19, 2015 1:43 pm

So the Patriots have elected not to appeal the deflategate punishment, seems that if they felt that strongly that they were innocent they would not hide in the corner so easily. That is unless the deal not to appeal means that the Brady suspension would be reduced.
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Post by Carson » May Tue 19, 2015 4:13 pm

Robert Kraft ‘reluctantly’ accepts Deflategate punishment, won’t appeal.That word alone tells me that there is a deal in the works with Brady.

Kraft wasn't going to break NFL bylaws and take the league to court over the punishment.The owners all want him to just take his punishment.They don't want to make their product take any more hits with their fan base.It's all about money.Their all billionares.

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Post by lost cause » May Tue 19, 2015 6:40 pm

Carson wrote:Robert Kraft ‘reluctantly’ accepts Deflategate punishment, won’t appeal.That word alone tells me that there is a deal in the works with Brady.

Kraft wasn't going to break NFL bylaws and take the league to court over the punishment.The owners all want him to just take his punishment.They don't want to make their product take any more hits with their fan base.It's all about money.Their all billionares.
By failing to defend himself and the team he has allowed the league to again call them cheaters, whether it is true or not.

Doesn't the league now have to uphold the suspension of Brady, or it is just going to look like quid pro quo? And Brady does not want this to go to court as he would then be required to turn over all of the electronic record he refused to give the league in the first place.
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Post by Carson » Aug Wed 12, 2015 5:07 pm

After 6 hrs today,Judge Berman grilled the NFL.
Berman pressed the NFL on the evidence it had of Brady's involvement

If you have read the documents on deflate-gate including Wells' report, the one thing that stands out is even though Wells was paid millions and had months to investigate, he never came close to saying what Brady did. Wells and the NFL can not answer what Brady's role was in deflate-gate, or even if he had any.

Berman said, via Leyden, "What is evidence of scheme or conspiracy that covers the January 18 game? I'm having trouble with that." Berman also asked, "Is there any direct evidence linking Mr. Brady to tampering?" Then Berman said, "I’m trying to figure out what is the direct evidence that implicates Mr. Brady in that deflation … in that bathroom…on Jan. 18."

The NFL admitted there is no direct evidence.

"Is there a text in which Mr. Brady instructs someone to put a needle in a football?" Nash said, according to the New York Daily News' story. "No, there is not such direct evidence."

Berman has the same trouble that anyone who looked at the case with an open mind did.

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Post by lost cause » Aug Wed 12, 2015 5:32 pm

He wasn't suspended for deflating the footballs, he was suspended under the league policy (agreed to be the NFLPA) regarding failing to cooperating in an investigation. Which his own lawyer admitted in court today that he should have cooperated.

The Patriots have handled this wrong from the very beginning, when they came out challenging the league to prove the accusations, exactly what did they think the out come was going to be?

Even if the judge determines that the league could not suspend Brady, the league has already won, with the punishment that Kraft agreed too. They gave up an awful lot for accusations of doing nothing more then throwing a spitball, or jaywalking.
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Post by Carson » Aug Wed 12, 2015 8:35 pm

The New England Patriots were notified today of the following discipline that has been imposed for violations of the NFL Policy on Integrity of the Game and Enforcement of Competitive Rules relating to the use of under-inflated footballs in the AFC Championship Game of this past season:

For the violation of the playing rules and the failure to cooperate in the subsequent investigation, the New England Patriots are fined $1 million and will forfeit the club's first-round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft and the club's fourth-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft. If the Patriots have more than one selection in either of these rounds, the earlier selection shall be forfeited. The club may not trade or otherwise encumber these selections.

Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised Commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th. Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent. If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.

Quarterback Tom Brady will be suspended without pay for the first four games of the 2015 regular season for conduct detrimental to the integrity of the NFL. Brady may participate in all off-season, training camp and pre-season activities, including pre-season games.

Commissioner Goodell authorized the discipline that was imposed by NFL Executive President Troy Vincent, pursuant to the commissioner's disciplinary authority under the NFL Constitution and Bylaws and the Collective Bargaining Agreement with the NFL Players Association.

"We reached these decisions after extensive discussion with Troy Vincent and many others," Commissioner Goodell said. "We relied on the critical importance of protecting the integrity of the game and the thoroughness and independence of the Wells report."

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Post by Carson » Aug Wed 12, 2015 8:39 pm

Quarterback Tom Brady will be suspended without pay for the first four games of the 2015 regular season for conduct detrimental to the integrity of the NFL.
Failure to cooperate was the $1 million fine and the draft picks.Punishment of the Patriots not Tom Brady.

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Post by Carson » Aug Wed 12, 2015 8:56 pm

Wednesday came and went, and the NFL and Tom Brady remained deadlocked. No settlement. No ceasefire. No discernible movement to dim the lights on the circus. Unless the NFL changes a key stance in the coming days, that won't change.

From the NFL's corner of the ring, the key to unlocking the settlement is Brady having to "embrace that he shares responsibility" for the deflation of footballs prior to last season's AFC championship game, according to a source who spoke to Yahoo Sports on Wednesday. Further, an ESPN report said the league office insists Brady must "accept" the findings of Ted Wells' investigation. But the source said Brady is refusing, and that New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft remains "100 percent" behind his quarterback's stance.

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Post by lost cause » Aug Thu 13, 2015 6:59 pm

Carson wrote:Wednesday came and went, and the NFL and Tom Brady remained deadlocked. No settlement. No ceasefire. No discernible movement to dim the lights on the circus. Unless the NFL changes a key stance in the coming days, that won't change.

From the NFL's corner of the ring, the key to unlocking the settlement is Brady having to "embrace that he shares responsibility" for the deflation of footballs prior to last season's AFC championship game, according to a source who spoke to Yahoo Sports on Wednesday. Further, an ESPN report said the league office insists Brady must "accept" the findings of Ted Wells' investigation. But the source said Brady is refusing, and that New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft remains "100 percent" behind his quarterback's stance.

Tom Brady won't do it
Tom Brady can't agree to accept the findings of the report, since during the investigation he denied any involvement in the altering of footballs (whether or not he is telling the truth hasn't been proven). If he agrees to the NFL demands, he opens himself up to the penalties of perjury and the legal ramifications of such a confession (he was sworn under oath during the Wells interviews).

No lawyer with a functioning brain cell would allow Brady as their client to open himself up to this type of legal issue.
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Re: PATRIOTS

Post by Carson » Aug Thu 13, 2015 11:22 pm

Tom Brady completed one of four passes before giving way to Jimmy Garoppolo, and the New England Patriots fell 22-11 to the Green Bay Packers in both teams' exhibition opener.Nothing to exciting to talk about.Some good,some bad.

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Post by Carson » Sep Thu 03, 2015 10:47 am

Tom Brady scored a major victory in court Thursday when a judge vacated the four-game suspension previously levied by the NFL for his involvement in Deflategate, according to the Associated Press.

Just like I thought he would get no suspension!!!!The league took this to court,a NY court and the judge 40 pages later rebuked everything!!!

The Patriots will now raise ANOTHER championship banner!!!!This should be some celebration!!!Brady will be playing!!

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Post by pat » Sep Thu 03, 2015 10:49 am

FREED!!!

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Re: PATRIOTS

Post by Carson » Sep Thu 03, 2015 10:58 am

The reigning Super Bowl MVP will be on the field for the season opener on Sept. 10 against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Carson » Sep Thu 03, 2015 4:01 pm

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will not be going to the NFL's season opener in New England.
Good decision Roger!!! :lol:

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Post by Carson » Sep Fri 11, 2015 12:10 am

Nice season opener!!!Crowd was into it!!!Brady threw for four touchdowns, three to favorite target Rob Gronkowski, and Super Bowl champion New England beat the ineffective Pittsburgh team 28-21!!!!

GO PATS!!!!

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Post by Carson » Sep Fri 11, 2015 7:04 pm

The NFL is investigating an alleged assault by Pittsburgh Steelers tight ends coach James Daniel on a Patriots fan at Gillette Stadium before halftime of the season opener on Thursday night, ESPN reports.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that, according to sources, NFL security is investigating Daniel for allegedly assaulting and verbally accosting a Patriots fan on the way to the locker room before halftime.

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Post by Carson » Sep Sun 13, 2015 10:56 am

Another Gooddell lie!He always said it was the Patriots who fired the ball guys.If that was the case then why is the team trying so hard to get their jobs back???? :roll: Plus if you wanted them back then why would you HAVE TO go threw the NFL to get their jobs back???? :lol:


Tuesday from Brady himself, who told Boston sports radio station WEEI that he feels bad for the two men and wants them both to rejoin the club.

"Of course none of those things are my decision, but I feel terrible," Brady said. "For what they've been put through, what their families have been put through ... I just feel terrible they are not with the team."

Commissioner Goodell insisted Tuesday on ESPN's "Mike and Mike" show that the NFL wasn't involved in Jastremski and McNally's suspensions in the first place.

"Absolutely not. Absolutely not. No," Goodell said. "That was a decision by the Patriots."

Still, it appears now that the Patriots want both men back working. And it'll be the NFL who decides if that's the case.The NFL said Jastremski and McNally could get their jobs back only if NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent gives his OK!

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Post by Swamp Yankee » Sep Sun 13, 2015 2:40 pm

According to sources informed of the situation, Troy Vincent, NFL Executive VP of Football Operations, has formally requested to meet with Patriots equipment staffer John Jastremski and locker room attendant Jim McNally before either is reinstated by the franchise.

While a source originally indicated the staffers could face discipline, a league source later said they would not be sanctioned further.

The Patriots made a written request for their reinstatement last week. The league made a public acknowledgment of it four days ago and said it is reviewing the request. The two employees were suspended indefinitely in May, and the NFL said they'd have to be reinstated by Vincent. Sources now say that reinstatement would have to include a face-to-face meeting with Vincent.

The goal would not be re-investigate the situation around the deflated footballs or begin another back-and-forth about what did or did not happen. This case won't be re-examined.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... s-staffers


So if the NFL didn't suspend them why would they decide if the men get reinstated. :roll:

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Post by Carson » Sep Tue 22, 2015 10:32 am

Brady threw three touchdowns and 466 yards passing - the second-most of his career and most by any player against Buffalo - in leading the New England Patriots to a 40-32 win Sunday.Same old story with the Bills!!!

We're on to Jacksonville!!!!
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Post by pat » Sep Tue 22, 2015 10:35 am

Well, they made it clear that they DID want Brady. Maybe next time they'll all be sporting signs that say "WE WANT REX TO STFU".

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Post by Carson » Sep Tue 22, 2015 10:52 am

Poor Rexy.This is all he's got to say:

"They outplayed us, they outcoached us, they outdid whatever. But there's different ways of chatting and of all that type of stuff, too. Let's face it: New England is not exactly the Boy Scouts of America. All right? So you can say what you want, but the tape doesn't lie either."

Sounds like sour grapes to me!!!

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Post by Carson » Sep Sun 27, 2015 8:50 pm

The Patriots defeated the Jaguars, 51-17, on Sunday at Gillette Stadium to improve to 3-0. Brady threw two touchdown passes and racked up 358 yards in the air. Brady’s first touchdown pass of the day was the 400th of his career, making him just the fourth player in NFL history to reach the milestone.

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Post by pat » Sep Mon 28, 2015 8:26 am

Looking forward to see how the Steelers pin Ben's injury on the Pats.

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Post by Carson » Sep Tue 29, 2015 10:39 am

The New England Patriots traded a 6th round pick to the Chicago Bears for linebacker Jon Bostic. The trade is still pending Bostic passing a physical. Bostic was a 2nd round pick in 2013 out of the University of Florida.

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Post by Carson » Oct Tue 06, 2015 10:36 am

This gives you an idea on how Bill prepares his teams:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/10/former- ... ting-balls

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Post by pat » Oct Sun 11, 2015 9:53 am

Nice to see this kind of story by a sports writer outside of New England.

Sorry Cowboys Fans - Patriots are the Best NFL Dynasty of All Time

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Post by Carson » Oct Mon 12, 2015 11:04 am

Through New England's 4-0 start, Brady is averaging almost 347 yards passing per game, and has 11 passing touchdowns (and one rushing) with no interceptions. His completion percentage (72.5) and passer rating (121.5) are the best in the league.

This revenge tour is great to watch!!!Don't hear anything more on needing deflated footballs! :lol:

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Patriots left tackle Nate Solder will miss the remainder of the season with a torn right biceps, according to the Boston Globe.

Solder suffered the injury on Sunday during a 30-6 win over the Cowboys. Announced as an elbow injury, Solder missed the entire second half and was replaced by backup tackle Marcus Cannon.

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Post by Carson » Oct Mon 19, 2015 12:32 pm

Tom Brady completed 23 passes for 312 yards and 3 touchdowns and lead the Patriots to a 34-27 win over the Indianapolis Colts in Week 6 of the 2015 NFL season.

Pretty funny Pagano calling for that fake punt.The only problem was nobody was faked!!! :lol:
Thanks for the good field position!!!

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Post by Carson » Oct Mon 19, 2015 1:45 pm

How about that Jamie Collins jump over the line to block the extra point???Nice!!!

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Post by Carson » Oct Sun 25, 2015 6:52 pm

Hard fought battle with the Jets but we pulled it out!!30-23!!!We are now 6-0!!!

Interesting stats:

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patrio ... ocid=yahoo

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Post by Carson » Oct Fri 30, 2015 3:25 pm

Patriots beat the Dolphins, 36-7.They just keep on rolling!!!

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Post by Joseph » Jan Sun 10, 2016 10:52 am

How do the Pat's match-up with the KC Chiefs?

Too bad about Houston.
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Post by Carson » Jan Tue 12, 2016 12:02 am

Going to be tough with all the injuries.The timing is going to be off with players coming back too.Then you run into a real hot team with KC.Even the weather they say is going to be bad so that doesn't help anyone.Who knows what can happen???

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Post by Joseph » Jan Wed 13, 2016 9:03 am

I guess it depends on how the practice sessions go. I saw an interview with Edelman and he wouldn't say if he is 100%. But, that's the kind of thing we see with this team - 'fake' a limp and downplay your abilities and exaggerate those of the opponent. It works for Belichick -except when it came to Philadelphia, this year.

Then there's been some people that say the Patriots do better than other teams in bad weather.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/24/sport ... .html?_r=0
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Post by Carson » Jan Fri 15, 2016 12:52 pm

The weather they say will be rain so that changes things.Anything can happen!

I am more concerned now with Gronk.He now has a back issue?When did this happen???He was also in the hospital yesterday due to some new knee issue????Missing practices.This is not good news at all.Who knows on Brady's ankle either?If that offensive line doesn't give him enough time to throw,we could be done.Edelman I heard has some device put into his cleats and had to adjust to using them.Who knows on him either.Then the news on Chandler Jones?What was he thinking???All not good going into a one and done game!Then they are playing a red hot team winning all their games?At this point,I don't think anything is going well for them.

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