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Extreme Vetting

Post by Mac66 » Feb Sat 11, 2017 4:53 pm

Of the 20 million refugees worldwide, only 1% (200,000) are resettled. Many are staying put in camps, hoping things stabilize in their home countries.

But for those who want to seek safety in another country, the first stop on the path is to register with the UNHCR, which fills out paperwork, handles preliminary questioning, and scans the refugees' eyes to enter into a database. Then the UNHCR, a country's embassy, or a humanitarian group might refer the refugees to a specific country willing to take them in.

For those refugees who are assigned to the US, the UNHCR passes their stories and information to the US government, triggering a multiagency effort that involved the departments of State, Homeland Security, Health and Human Services, and Defense, as well as the FBI and other parts of the US Intelligence Community, many testing their biographic and biometric information against multiple databases repeatedly throughout the process.

And amid all the screening come those interviews — many, many interviews that can last three or four hours each and consist of detailed and repeated questions, according to Tammy Lin, a San Diego-based immigration lawyer who worked at a refugee-resettlement agency for nine years.

The State Department says the whole process should take between 18 and 24 months. But Lin said that estimate is "laughable." It took four to eight years for most of the refugees she's met.

Lin said she can only assume people like Trump are ignorant of the process when they call for "extreme vetting" and tighter security measures due to the threat posed by refugees.

"They're the most heavily vetted immigrants that end up coming to the US," Lin said. "I feel like it's scapegoating to put this on them."
Bryan Scott Hicks, an Ohio-based immigration lawyer who works with resettled refugee families, said he has seen cases where refugees were denied resettlement simply because they may have once offered food to someone considered a terrorist. Refugee officers consider that providing "material support" to terrorism and immediately deny them entry.

Hicks said many resettled Syrian families have told him that the officers in charge of vetting them would interview each family member separately — including young children — and ask incredibly detailed questions, and then bring each of them back for a second, third, or fourth round to try to catch discrepancies in their stories.

"The thing that people don't realize is how cautious they are," Hicks told Business Insider. "The inclination is not to say yes. The default is no. So if you have an officer who catches the remotest whiff of a problem, the answer is no."
"It’s a long process, it’s a hard process, it’s an emotional process, and it does take a long time," Robin Dunn Marcos, the senior director of processing and resettlement at the International Rescue Committee, told Business Insider. "It’s a roller coaster under the best of conditions."
The notion that refugees will commit terrorist attacks on American soil appears to be a similarly unfounded fear. A recent Cato Institute study found that the odds of being killed by a refugee committing a terrorist act on US soil is one in 3.6 billion per year. It's far more likely for terrorists to find another way to enter the country due to the rigorous vetting process for refugees, Hicks said.

"It's a rigorous system, it's working, and if you're going to demand 100% certainty, that's impossible," Hicks said. "I don't know a government program that works better than that."
the odds of being killed by a refugee committing a terrorist act on US soil is one in 3.6 billion per year. You have a better chance of getting whacked trying to take a left hand turn out of DD on to 139. Talk about terror...

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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by specialties » Feb Sat 11, 2017 7:02 pm

Why not tour EU this summer and see how you like it... Let us know...

Ey, angela??
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by Mac66 » Feb Sat 11, 2017 7:56 pm

Check your geography, buddy. That big blue thing separating us from Europe is called the Atlantic...

More going south than north, but we don't want facts to intrude on our fear, do we...

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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by specialties » Feb Sat 11, 2017 8:49 pm

Enjoy your truth... Optional...
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by JIMD » Feb Sat 11, 2017 8:50 pm

Mac you're confusing two sets of people
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Post by Joseph » Feb Sat 11, 2017 11:19 pm

Vetting through....


"...triggering a multiagency effort that involved the departments of State, Homeland Security, Health and Human Services, and Defense, as well as the FBI and other parts of the US Intelligence Community..."

Knowing that these bureaucracies have been stuffed by Clinton, George W. and then Obama...and considering the 'training and indoctrination federal employees are put under...Oh, yeah, reason to have real high confidence that they are part of the scheme to load the Democrat voter lists! As Podesta emails through Wikileaks revealed - the libtards operate under the maxim: Demographics is Destiny.

Who ya gonna call???
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by Mac66 » Feb Sun 12, 2017 7:47 am

Who ya gonna call???
Ivanka at the White House Shopping Network...cut rate junk on the telly per Ms Conway...

Hey buddy, Trump is the government, he's the politician, he's part of the DC establishment now...he's accountable now, nobody cares about the Seahawks now and Obama is surfing boarding with Richard Branson...go buy his boring book and then burn it, that's your only play...

It's all on Donny now and you guys who suck up to him, without question....

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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by Mac66 » Feb Sun 12, 2017 7:51 am

Mac you're confusing two sets of people
That so?

http://www.businessinsider.com/mexico-p ... ump-2017-2
US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers deported Guadalupe García de Rayos from Phoenix to Nogales, Mexico, on Thursday.

Rayos had lived in the US for 21 years, after crossing the border when she was 14. Her lawyer said the removal was a "direct result" of Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration.

Her family and others tried to block the deportation, with one man going so far as to wrap himself around the front wheel of the van transporting her out of an ICE facility.

She was not the first person in the US deported back to Mexico. On February 8, 135 deportees arrived in Mexico City, greeted by that country's president and TV cameras. Nor will she be the last.
Later on Thursday, ICE agents in Los Angeles reportedly swept up at least 100 people, spurring more protests there. In Austin, Texas, five undocumented migrants were reportedly picked up in separate, targeted raids, an unheard of total according to one local nonprofit organizer.

On Friday, the US Department of Homeland Security confirmed that ICE had raided homes and workplaces in Atlanta and the Los Angeles area, and activists said other raids had been carried out in Virginia, North Carolina, New York, Kansas, and other parts of Texas and California.
Feel safer now? Did Hannity approve?

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Post by Joseph » Feb Sun 12, 2017 9:05 am

There is a well thought out program to push '3rd world' refugees and other immigrants into conservative regions.
The Libtard Dems know that these people will likely vote Democrat forever. And, in states where the Electoral College votes are won/lost by slim margins - you know what states the Dems are loading immigrants into.

We see a microcosm of this locally with 40B projects. Not that the 40Bs will hold refugees and other recent immigrants but, that they will contain voters that tend to vote Democrat. This is why Cantwell doesn't speak out against 40Bs.

Anyway, give it time. I am waiting to hear the outcry from the Libtard 'Holiday Breakers' about 'hosting' refugees.
Could be interesting:
http://abc7ny.com/news/brentwood-parent ... s/1523443/
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by specialties » Feb Sun 12, 2017 11:43 am

Trump is the government, he's the politician, he's part of the DC establishment now.
Yeah, and he gets things done and is very successful, unlike your dweeb pawls who can only tax and spend....

" Oh, you want to be a marxist in your heart, in your heart " Sorry, it don't work...
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Post by Mac66 » Feb Tue 14, 2017 9:27 am

Fox News explainer: Trump is deporting people who are here illegally and have committed some sort of crime while here.They have served time, been released, and are still here, albeit illegally.

So, Reagan and Obama took a case by case approach; people here illegally but working, with family, no threat, were left alone. Trump is going after everyone regardless of circumstance, dangerous or not.

The cost? If someone on the deportation list can't afford a lawyer for the trial that by law must happen, guess who pays? The gov pays for the trial, and they pay for the prosecutor, and they pay for the defense lawyer.

The tab? $250,000 per deportation.

That's all on the American taxpayer. The benefit? Practically none.

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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by specialties » Feb Tue 14, 2017 9:37 am

What will be the cost if they stay at your house?? Undocumented guests...
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by Mac66 » Feb Tue 14, 2017 9:42 am

What will be the cost
The loss of reason and common sense, already here.

You and Mike Flynn Jr belong in the same basement, cooking up conspiracy theories...hope his mom brings sandwiches now and again...

Glad you support the tax collector...

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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by specialties » Feb Tue 14, 2017 10:22 am

:lol: He's too slippery for me!!
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by JIMD » Feb Tue 14, 2017 10:59 am

Why does having a family here mean anything, they are welcome to bring their families home with them no one is stopping that.

I'm certain the cost can be reduced significantly, a speedy trial and quick departure
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by specialties » Feb Tue 14, 2017 12:05 pm

The bama deported millions of them...
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by Mac66 » Feb Tue 14, 2017 12:21 pm

Why does having a family here mean anything, they are welcome to bring their families home with them
Right, rip the kids out of school, put em in a white van and get em the hell out of here. Hope they never come back! Cuffs, hoods, and cages...

Oh wait, they're doing the jobs none of us want to do; ready to step in and start making beds, working the assembly line, cleaning johns?

Didn't think so.

And lets ruin some lives while we're at it, it's all good because Donny said it was, and we never question The Great Man...

Cost? Ever deal with the legal system? Costs go up, they never come down. The gov pays for the trial, the defense, the prosecutor, food and housing, transportation, everything!

Feel safer now? $250,000 worth?

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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by JIMD » Feb Tue 14, 2017 2:04 pm

The attitude is prevalent with liberals, have workers work at sub standard wages so liberal whitey can have a better standard of living. Democrats taking advantage of people, like slavery


Oh wait, they're doing the jobs none of us want to do; ready to step in and start making beds, working the assembly line, cleaning johns?

Buck up and pay a fair wage and plenty of legal people will take the jobs as soon as they know the welfare check is not coming

Right, rip the kids out of school, what hog wash people move all the time and remove their kids from school then sign up some where else.

Kids are quit resilient and will easily change schools with no issues.
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by specialties » Feb Tue 14, 2017 4:19 pm

Hummmm, I'm beginning to see real differences between liberals and leftys...

Most of the hate is coming from the far left...

Most of the compassion and giving is coming out of the liberals...

Discuss... vett the left and isisis... the horns of the bull...

So you hate Western Culture, what do you have to replace it with??? First marx doesn't count...
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by Mac66 » Feb Tue 14, 2017 5:43 pm

So you hate Western Culture
So, you yakking about President Bannon or King Trump?

Both convinced the voters that American Carnage is upon us, and you bought it all..

We have the best place on earth, you guys preach nothing but fear and despair...

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Post by JIMD » Feb Tue 14, 2017 5:57 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dam-crisis-w ... 08848.html

CA infrastructure is crumbling to the ground, roads are no good, water systems are no good but liberals want to pay for millions of people and their extended families to live on the dole... that's why the moonbats lost goofball, get the picture

Moonbats want to leave the US and now Jerry B on his knees wanting some US cash
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by specialties » Feb Tue 14, 2017 6:57 pm

So, you yakking about President Bannon or King Trump?
No, the high level of hate from left field... Am thinking you loose a lot of liberals these days...

Is it a self hating wish list we see?? You certainly are in melt down, mr. piltdown...
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Post by Mac66 » Feb Wed 15, 2017 6:41 am

CA infrastructure is crumbling to the ground
Yeah, and when Obama proposed spending plans to address this stuff, you guys whined about government over reach, the deficit, pork, everything.

When your boy Donny proposes it, it will be sunshine and light...

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Post by JIMD » Feb Wed 15, 2017 7:54 am

Frigging grow up will you WTF? It's obvious the infrastructure is crumbling Barry couldn't get the job done with his leadership, maybe Trump will.

Can't you go stand is a road some place and chain yourself to a cement block?
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Post by specialties » Feb Wed 15, 2017 8:14 am

CA infrastructure is crumbling to the ground
chip,

Once more, once... CA is tanking just like Detroit and Chicago...
Too many decades of communist style rule, see, it doesn't work anywhere...
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Post by Mac66 » Feb Wed 15, 2017 8:18 am

It reflects the unspoken recognition that no matter how much Republicans say they care about infrastructure, they’re not going to accept any infrastructure proposals that come from President Barack Obama. They opposed his $50 billion “roads, rails and runways” proposal in 2010, and then again when it was expanded and incorporated into his American Jobs Act in 2011. They’ve blocked Obama’s plans for an infrastructure bank and a national high-speed rail network. They’ve also blocked Obama’s proposals for corporate tax reform, which is relevant, because the new GROW AMERICA Act depends on tax reform for much of its financing.
You're beyond help. Short term memory loss compounded by TSS (Trunp Suck-up Syndrome)

Trump better hurry; the mid terms are coming, and he could well lose the house and senate the way Obama did in 2010.

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Post by HokieAl » Feb Wed 15, 2017 9:08 am

Mac66 wrote:
and a national high-speed rail network
That would be like putting hitching posts in the mall parking lot, or wiring all classrooms with phone lines.

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Post by Mac66 » Feb Wed 15, 2017 9:28 am

and a national high-speed rail network
Yeah, wouldn't want something forward thinking, now would we?

As usual, cherry picking.

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Post by HokieAl » Feb Wed 15, 2017 9:31 am

Mac66 wrote:
and a national high-speed rail network
Yeah, wouldn't want something forward thinking, now would we?

As usual, cherry picking.
High speed rail network in this country is forward thinking?

I think riding in choo choo trains is hardly forward thinking.

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Post by Mac66 » Feb Wed 15, 2017 9:40 am

I think riding in choo choo trains
Not talking about Edaville and the Cog Mountain Railway-

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Post by JIMD » Feb Wed 15, 2017 10:19 am

Those two are completed and paid for, a national rail would never be completed and never be paid for. Have private companies do the work if you want success
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by Joseph » Feb Wed 15, 2017 4:41 pm

Mac66 wrote:
I think riding in choo choo trains
Not talking about Edaville and the Cog Mountain Railway-
Oh, yeah. Good old beautiful Cog Mountain. I think Hillary was named for the first person to summit.
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Post by Mac66 » Feb Tue 21, 2017 4:10 pm

...The guidance also makes clear that driving without a license, a frequent offense for undocumented immigrants, could make an individual "subject to immigration arrest, detention and, if found removable by final order, removal from the United States."
Wonder if the deportation order could be expanded to include all the idiot white folks who routinely run the lights in this town.

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Post by HokieAl » Feb Tue 21, 2017 5:14 pm

Mac66 wrote:idiot white folks
Isn't that racist?

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Post by Joseph » Feb Tue 21, 2017 5:40 pm

Mac66 wrote:
...The guidance also makes clear that driving without a license, a frequent offense for undocumented immigrants, could make an individual "subject to immigration arrest, detention and, if found removable by final order, removal from the United States."
Wonder if the deportation order could be expanded to include all the idiot white folks who routinely run the lights in this town.

"Idiot white folks"?? Just white folks?


Actually, how about we just let the police stop and shoot ANYONE that doesn't 'behave' or that looks funny or different?
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Post by specialties » Feb Tue 21, 2017 6:25 pm

Isn't that racist?
No, not from him... Sounds like a self hating race baiter...

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Post by Mac66 » Feb Tue 21, 2017 6:57 pm

Self hating race baiter?

You learn well from your handlers...as usual, so in love with your utterances that sense and reason flys away...

Anything for a cheap shot, go spend time with Milo, he's looking for a new gig, one that will allow him to take unfettered cheap shots, I'm sure you get that...

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Post by specialties » Feb Tue 21, 2017 8:21 pm

:lol: My apologies... Make that a self hating honkey... Like jorge' sorrows...

Suck it up, chump...
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Re: Extreme Vetting

Post by Mac66 » Feb Wed 22, 2017 7:47 am

Ready to pay up, folks?

15,000 more border patrol personnel; (and lots of screening for criminals, drug smugglers, etc.)
More immigration lawyers and judges;
More prison guards;
More detainment centers;
And a continuation of the wall, including planning, mitigation, environmental impact studies, construction, perpetual repair, and lots and lots of barbed wire. Billions. And the Mexicans aren't paying.
For more than a century, innumerable studies have confirmed two simple yet powerful truths about the relationship between immigration and crime: immigrants are less likely to commit serious crimes or be behind bars than the native-born, and high rates of immigration are associated with lower rates of violent crime and property crime. This holds true for both legal immigrants and the unauthorized, regardless of their country of origin or level of education. In other words, the overwhelming majority of immigrants are not “criminals” by any commonly accepted definition of the term. For this reason, harsh immigration policies are not effective in fighting crime. Unfortunately, immigration policy is frequently shaped more by fear and stereotype than by empirical evidence. As a result, immigrants have the stigma of “criminality” ascribed to them by an ever-evolving assortment of laws and immigration-enforcement mechanisms. Put differently, immigrants are being defined more and more as threats. Whole new classes of “felonies” have been created which apply only to immigrants, deportation has become a punishment for even minor offenses, and policies aimed at trying to end unauthorized immigration have been made more punitive rather than more rational and practical. In short, immigrants themselves are being criminalized.

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Post by specialties » Feb Wed 22, 2017 8:25 am

15,000 more border patrol personnel; (and lots of screening for criminals, drug smugglers, etc.)
More immigration lawyers and judges;
More prison guards;
More detainment centers;
And a continuation of the wall, including planning, mitigation, environmental impact studies, construction, perpetual repair, and lots and lots of barbed wire. Billions. And the Mexicans aren't paying.
Right on... A small price to pay for 8 years of inept relaxation of so many laws for the ubiquitous 'fundamental change'......

Sounds like a good deal to me, komrade...

Just think of the alternate price which the fake media is pushing!! OY!!! Thanks for the heads up...

Are you all signed up to be trained in 'demonstrating' @ OFA?? What will you replace all this with, saul??
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