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Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 8:06 am
by Mac66
FISA warrants are intended to protect the confidentiality of the accused. Carter Page has been hung out to dry by his conservative friends. He was courted by Russian intelligence, but still has rights as a citizen. All this transparency and accountability chatter is hiding something more insidious: erosion of rights and privacy.

Fire up your VPN’s and hope for the best-

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 8:48 am
by specialties
FISA warrants are intended to protect the confidentiality of the accused.
Or exposure of termites...


I can add up all your talking points to fin item and they pale against the heavy weight on your side of the isle... I do see light coming your way and being accepted since light is truth instead of the tired lies...
Sorry that the disgraced party failed both of us, but that is history now... Since I am not a republican I still look forward to seeing less 'human nature' over in their camp... So far so good...
Maybe this cycle we will actually become One Nation under God once again... The 'Spirit' elimination pogrom almost worked...

But alas, nobody screws God but they still try... Like rust on a ship...

Really, have a nice sunny day... And are you not glad that the good guys are not sore winners??

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 9:08 am
by Mac66
Why would you be sore winners?

For the time being, your guys have run the table. Increasing military by 80 billion, building the wall, fighting a no win holding action in Afghanistan, cutting legal immigration, fewer people trying to get here, increasing the national debt by trillions, cutting food stamps, new work rules.

No surprises here. A Republican budget proposal, through and through...

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 9:18 am
by HokieAl
Mac66 wrote:
Feb Tue 13, 2018 9:08 am
cutting food stamps
They didn't cut. They changed rules which will save lots of money. That's not a cut. Instead of an EBT card so that you can buy doritos, they'll get healthy food.

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 9:22 am
by HokieAl
Mac66 wrote:
Feb Tue 13, 2018 9:08 am
increasing the national debt by trillions
Thanks to the new tax cut, January saw the national debt drop.

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 10:20 am
by specialties
your guys
I don't have guys and I am not a republican...
Your defense of that tired old broken down party is worse than when the republicans were the old home wreckers some time back...
Get on to yourself...
Why would you be sore winners?
That's it, we are not... Call it an ethic which has long since been vacated from the party of shame and dishonor...

Overview from an objective mountain... Monkey see, monkey do??

From here you will know, grasshopper, and the truth will set you free... Go forth and prosper... You deserve better...

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 11:36 am
by Mac66
They didn't cut.
On Monday, the Trump administration proposed cutting food stamps, formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program, by $17 billion in 2019 and more than $213 billion over the next decade.
The GOP is the party of fiscal responsibility no more.

That’s according to some conservatives who are grappling with a Republican-backed spending binge that threatens to generate trillion-dollar deficits for years to come while staining a cherished pillar of the modern-day Republican Party.

While President Donald Trump and his allies hope economic growth may ease future deficits, few fiscal conservatives cheered Monday’s release of the president’s $4 trillion-plus budget, which would create $7.2 trillion in red ink over the next decade if adopted by Congress. That follows congressional passage of last week’s $400 billion spending pact, along with massive tax cuts, which some analysts predict will push deficits to levels not in generations.

Deficit hawks in Congress and conservative activists who railed against President Barack Obama’s spending plans called the GOP debt explosion “dangerous,” ″immoral” and “a betrayal.”
There it is.

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 11:45 am
by HokieAl
Mac66 wrote:
Feb Tue 13, 2018 11:36 am
On Monday, the Trump administration proposed cutting food stamps, formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program, by $17 billion in 2019 and more than $213 billion over the next decade.
Trump Administration Wants To Decide What Food SNAP Recipients Will Get ... s-will-get

Saving money. Good. Rules changes result is saved money. Liberals call it a cut. Just like they call a reduced increase a cut.
Mac66 wrote:
Feb Tue 13, 2018 11:36 am
There it is.
Feds Collect Record Taxes in First Month Under Tax Cut; Run Surplus in January
During January, the Treasury collected approximately $361,038,000,000 in total tax revenues and spent a total of approximately $311,802,000,000 to run a surplus of approximately $49,236,000,000. ... un-surplus

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 11:51 am
by specialties
Image Give it up, Vlad...

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 13, 2018 5:22 pm
by Still Steadfast
Declassified: Comey Had Secret Russia Meeting With Obama Amid "Unmaskings" ... unmaskings

"An odd email sent moments after the inauguration by former National Security Advisor Susan Rice, apparently to herself, describes a January 5, 2017 meeting between members of the U.S. intelligence community and President Obama, while Rice and the Obama were knee deep in "unmasking" the Trump team. ..."

Grassley/Graham release a partially redacted email sent by Susan Rice to herself on Jan. 20, 2017 — 15 minutes after Trump took office — detailing a Jan. 5 Oval Office meeting w Obama about Russian hacking:

"In her email, Rice very deliberately notes that President Obama "stressed his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled by the Intelligence and law enforcement communities "by the book". and that Obama "stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective."

Rice's "CYA" email to herself is so bizarre in light of the fact that we now know the Trump-Russia investigation was anything but "by the book," that Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) fired off a letter asking her just what in tarnation she knows."


In addition to Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, VP Joe Biden, Obama and Rice, the fifth participant in the Jan 5, 2017 meeting was none other than former FBI Director James Brien Comey Jr., also known as "Boyscoutish" Jim.

What's notable about Comey's attendance in the meeting is that it appears he misled Congress about his contact with President Obama.

Previously, Comey contended he only met with the Obama twice, once in 2015 and another “to say goodbye in late 2016,” according the former FBI director’s June 8, 2017, testimony before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

“I spoke alone with President Obama twice in person (and never on the phone) – once in 2015 to discuss law enforcement policy issues and a second time, briefly, for him to say goodbye in late 2016,” Comey’s opening statement read. -Daily Caller

Comey's prepared statement to congress deliberately omits the January 5 meeting, and qualifies his meetings with Obama as "alone." In other words, since the Jan 5 meeting wasn't "alone," Comey didn't include it - thus, it appears he deliberately mislead Congress about his communications with President Obama.

So while the former FBI Director painted a picture of minimal communication between the FBI, DOJ, and the Obama Administration in his briefing to Congress - we now know that they were in virtual lockstep over their efforts to surveil Donald Trump as a candidate, an incoming President, and a sitting President.


We also learned in the last week that President Obama was far more "hands on" the FBI investigation than he previously admitted - as revealed in a batch of text messages between anti-Trump FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, in which Page tells Strzok "potus wants to know everything we're doing."

The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because “potus wants to know everything we’re doing.” According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama’s personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.

Given this, was the January 5th meeting a huddle to discuss both the FBI's efforts and the unmasking taking place on Susan Rice's request?

As we noted, Rice's letter to herself was sent a few weeks after Rice and the Obama administration "unmasked" Trump aides after the election and shortly before the inauguration, as exposed by journalist Mike Cernovich on April 2, 2017:

The White House Counsel’s office identified Rice as the person responsible for the unmasking after examining Rice’s document log requests. The reports Rice requested to see are kept under tightly-controlled conditions. Each person must log her name before being granted access to them.

“Unmasking” is the process of identifying individuals whose communications were caught in the dragnet of intelligence gathering. While conducting investigations into terrorism and other related crimes, intelligence analysts incidentally capture conversations about parties not subject to the search warrant. The identities of individuals who are not under investigation are kept confidential, for legal and moral reasons. -Mike Cernovich

Two days after the bombshell report, Rice appeared on MSNBC, where she said: “There was no such collection or surveillance on Trump Tower or Trump individuals, it is important to understand, directed by the White House or targeted at Trump individuals,” Rice said.

“The allegation is that somehow, Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes,” Rice told Mitchell. “That’s absolutely false.... My job is to protect the American people and the security of our country. "

Rice's eventual explanation for the unmasking is that the White House wanted to understand why senior Trump officials held a 2016 meeting with the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates.

The crown prince, Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan, arrived in New York last December in the transition period before Trump was sworn into office for a meeting with several top Trump officials, including Michael Flynn, the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and his top strategist Steve Bannon, sources said. -CNN

Rice's unmasking campaign was ostensibly based on the FISA warrant obtained using an unverified dossier and a supporting Yahoo News article using information provided by former UK spy Christopher Steele who assembled the document.

Not very "by the book" now, is it?

To that end, the letter from Grassley and Graham ask several questions related to the FBI investigation, including one about FISA applications:

1. When did you become aware of any surveillance activities, including FISA applications, undertaken by the FBI in conducting that investigation?
2. At the time you wrote this email to yourself, were you aware of either the October 2016 FISA application for surveillance of Carter Page or the January 2017 renewal?
3. During the meeting, did Mr. Comey or Ms. Yates mention potential press coverage of the Steele dossier? If so, what did they say?
4. During the meeting, did Mr. Comey describe the status of the FBI’s relationship with Mr. Steele, or the basis for that status?
5. When and how did you first become aware that the Clinton Campaign and the Democratic National Committee funded Mr. Steele’s efforts?

We look forward to Rice's response on this odd letter. Perhaps she and Comey will be asked to come back to The Hill and explain exactly what in the hell they were up to on January 5th, and why Rice sent herself that bizarre and transparent email.

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Wed 14, 2018 10:58 am
by specialties
Where did you go, tadpole??

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Wed 14, 2018 11:03 am
by HokieAl
Still Steadfast wrote:
Feb Tue 13, 2018 5:22 pm
former National Security Advisor Susan Rice, apparently to herself
Lying Suzane Rice.

Remember Benghazi. And all the morning talk shows she went on and said it was due to the YouTube video. And we later found out this was after she knew for a fact it was terrorism.

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Wed 14, 2018 11:37 am
by specialties
I wish that our friend to the far left would include his politico people's boo boos when he raggs on the good guy's errors, or alleged errors...
I think that by now we are hip to the real collusion... Russia, Iranium, shrillary's money pit, etc. you know the gag!!!
Typical alinsky, do what you are accusing the other party of...

In the aggregate he remains swamped up over his head... True, human nature is on both sides as has been well proven by now... Even from the garden...

Can we have an accumulated percentage compilation including both side's extremes?? I'm seeing about 80/20 which is closer than a horse race...

A TKO in the 4th is about right... Marx is knocked out dead... I'll admit that he is still running the dnc...

Ollie Ollie in free, smack... Take a walk in the light... The light that is truth and the truth that is light!!! We can't be kidding God too much longer...

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 20, 2018 9:21 pm
by Still Steadfast
Leaked Texts Suggest Former Feinstein Staffer Part Of Ongoing Scramble To Verify Dossier ... fy-dossier

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Tue 20, 2018 9:26 pm
by Still Steadfast
Russia-Gate Ends with a Bang, Not a Whimper

February 19, 2018 / Tom Luongo ... a-whimper/

With all the column inches spilled over Robert Mueller’s thirteen indictments issued on Friday very few of them have touched on the real revelation.

It’s not the obvious case of prosecutorial over-reach. It isn’t the further subversion of the grand jury process by Federal Prosecutors unmoored from personal bias.

It isn’t the admission that no one on the Trump team knowingly colluded with Russian agents to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

It isn’t even that Former FBI Director Andrew McCabe doctored interview documents to secure a guilty plea from General Michael Flynn.

It’s not obvious collusion between his investigation and the media to hang a duly-elected President in the court of public opinion.


The real revelation with Mueller’s indictments is that they represent the depths of how far our system has fallen from the ideals and principles it was founded upon.

The U.S. as a society exists solely for the purpose of the powerful to score cheap political points in the service of accumulating more power.

Anything or anyone that says no to that will be hounded via a set of Byzantine rules by corrupt thugs like Mueller who feel no shame whatsoever in presenting the most laughable charges as credible in public to serve a predetermined outcome.

In this case, impeach a President and over-turn an election.

Shadows Over Parkland

That Mueller went public with these indictments the same day the FBI was having literally the worst day in the agency’s history only underscores the depths to which he and those who he represents will sink to deflect blame.

While people are calling for FBI Director Christopher Wray’s head over the agency’s botched handling of the shooter in the Parkland, Florida tragedy, Mueller hastily puts out, on a Friday no less, an announcement of his big catches in his Russian collusion investigation.

The message from Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s presentation was simple. The FBI and the Department of Justice care more about our images than we do about protecting your children from senseless violence.

If Mueller had gone public with these indictments on any other day the peals of laughter would have been deafening. But, as it stands, all that happened was the red-pilling of even more of this country’s center.

So many people are governed by their normalcy bias. They place themselves in another person’s position and believe someone like Mueller is acting the way they would.

This is why it’s so easy for people to dismiss seeing these ‘coincidences’ as a conspiracy theory.

But, the problem with that is that eventually too many theories become facts. And with the cries for more gun control and FBI failure after the shooting in Parkland, Florida, to see a disgraced FBI try and distract people and control the news cycle will be a final straw for too many.

A Coincidence Too Far

There comes a point where the ‘coincidences’ are too numerous, the narcissism too blatant for people to excuse.

Here we are grieving for the dead in Florida, having to be screeched at by clueless, hyper-emotional gun-control advocates and still processing the magnitude of the FBI’s incompetence and Mueller and Rosenstein thought it was the smart play to indict a bunch of nameless Russians to create a distraction?

Do they not realize that in a situation like this people’s anger is real? Their pain is real? The disillusionment with our government agencies is real?

It isn’t the product of a Soviet propaganda campaign. But, most people are willing to go along out of a sense of fairness. All Mueller had to do after a year and a half of the Democrats haranguing us with Trump’s malfeasance was prove it.


And by now admitting that he, in fact, proved the opposite, people’s disillusionment will turn to disgust and anger. Those on the left not lost in the worst throes of Trump Derangement Syndrome will be angry at being obviously played for fund-raising fools and the center will simply further reject the status quo in D.C.

The Laziness of Power

Mueller, like so many of these power-holders, really do live in an endless hall of mirrors, thinking only of themselves and how these events affect them and their social status. They really think we didn’t know what we were doing when we elected Trump.

To even bring these charges public admits just how little regard they have for us. That we are so stupid as to believe a few Facebook ads and Twitter sock puppet accounts was the reason why Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton.

In fact, the only person so self-deluded to believe what I just wrote is Hillary Clinton herself. Everyone else is looking at this and simply laughing their asses off.

I’m ecstatic. I couldn’t have asked for anything better. By being so predictable in trying to shape the narrative they undermine our faith in them further. By trying to protect the FBI, they throw more dirt on its coffin.

This is the kind of tone-deaf idiocy that precedes real reform.

Right now, in U.S. politics, the best way to beat your opponents is to simply sit back and let them defeat themselves.

Mueller’s win-at-all-costs approach to his Special Counsel investigation is no different than Hillary’s campaign for President. They both figured they couldn’t lose if they simply stacked the deck in their favor.

The problem for Mueller was, however, that he had no evidence. So, his investigation was always going to end the same way, in disgrace.

Re: Draining the Swamp

Posted: Feb Wed 21, 2018 7:51 am
by Still Steadfast
In Unexpected Twist, Judge In Flynn Case Asks Mueller For "Exculpatory Evidence" ... y-evidence
The federal judge assigned to the criminal case against Trump's former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has ordered Special Counsel Robert Mueller to turn over any "exculpatory evidence" to Flynn's defense team.

Oddly, however, Flynn's legal team did not make this request. Instead, Judge Emmet G. Sullivan issued the order "sua sponte," or at his discretion, invoking the "Brady Rule" - which requires prosecutors to turn over previously unfiled evidence that might have a material impact on a defendant's case. Interestingly, two days before the order Mueller filed a motion for an agreed-upon protective order regarding the use of evidence in the case, including "sensitive materials," provided to Flynn's lawyers by the office of the Special Counsel.

As The Hill notes, Sullivan dinged federal prosecutors in the trial of former Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) for misconduct in failing to turn over exculpatory evidence.

The development has generated a significant buzz in conservative circles, with the implication being that perhaps Flynn might not have pleaded guilty in light of certain evidence.