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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Oct Fri 27, 2017 7:10 pm

She just wants the guns gone... Tunnel vision @ someone else's command however remote...

Lotsa young kids are waking up... The sh*itbirds outta lay low for about a century...

Why cause any more hurt??? Especially from a boomerang...

say: uranian conclusion collusion backfired to the tune of a quarter bil, plus screw ups and hide the weener!!!

Besides, the good guys are not sore winners... Forgive yourself and press on...
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Oct Tue 31, 2017 9:26 am

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/17/guns- ... tennessee/

another story of democrats getting out of control and required a push back
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Oct Tue 31, 2017 9:40 am

God Bless America... There are plenty more where those heroes came from...
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Re: Gun Ban

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Oct Tue 31, 2017 1:24 pm

2nd Amendment Rally - November 5th, 2017 at 10:AM. on Statehouse steps.
This peaceful , pro 2nd Amendment, rally is to be held in every state on Sunday , November 5th. Good weather is predicted. Do not look for details in main stream media. Click on link below. See you there.
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Nov Wed 01, 2017 11:49 am

Pending butt stock legislation now before the Massachusetts legislature will not just restrict butt stocks on AR-15s. A butt stock can be designed to work on any semi automatic rifle with a light enough trigger pull. The proponents of this bill are covertly going after all semi auto rifles. The next step will be legislation to restrict trigger pull poundage on all semi autos until they are, for all intents and purposes, good only for hitting the sides of barns. It is a political rationalization, not a solution to anything - just like Maura Healey's ban.

Very few anti gun bills exist in a vacuum. Too many have intended secondary consequences written into them. We have to recognize what these anti gun proponents ultimately want and let them know, in no uncertain terms, it is not what they want that matters. What matters is what the people who elected them want. That, today, is a novel concept in this state - swamp donkeys have their own, separate, agenda.
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by HokieAl » Nov Wed 01, 2017 7:58 pm

specialties wrote:
Oct Fri 27, 2017 7:10 pm
She just wants the guns gone...
When is she going to call for Home Depot rental truck bans?

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Nov Fri 03, 2017 10:12 am

When is she going to call for Home Depot rental truck bans?
They're safe. As long as there not black.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Nov Mon 06, 2017 7:16 am

http://www.ruger.com/products/ar556/models.html

No worries. The left will bleat and howl, the right will say and do next to nothing, more guns will be sold, the news cycle will last a few days, and we're on to the next mass killing.

Wait for it.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Nov Mon 06, 2017 8:22 am

An avid atheist and more important anti-God, he sounds like he's one of the lefts
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Nov Mon 06, 2017 10:02 am

An avid atheist and more important anti-God, he sounds like he's one of the lefts
Sounds like fake news.

Bad conduct discharge from the Air Force. Assaults his wife and kid. Post pictures of his gun on Facebook.

Another loser with a gun.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Nov Mon 06, 2017 10:15 am

No worries. The left will bleat and howl, the right will say and do next to nothing, more guns will be sold, the news cycle will last a few days, and we're on to the next mass killing.
Just what is it do you want, Mac66? Nothing could have stopped this tragedy - not even guns. There was the slight possibility the killer would have thought twice about entering the church if he thought he would be facing guns inside. But we can't say for sure. In all likely hood the gunman was insane - not rational. The one thing we can be fairly sure about is the number of people killed and wounded would have been less, maybe far less, if some of the church people were carrying. So who are we going to blame? Guns? We have seen how when someone gets to a certain point of mindless rage they just seek other means to kill. How about blaming safe zones and insanity? And where does all this delusion and insanity most likely coming from - the right or the left? Be honest.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Nov Mon 06, 2017 10:36 am

First: given his bad conduct discharge from the AF, he should have been prevented from legally purchasing any weapon. He bought the thing after his discharge.

Second: an annual, renewable license for owning one of these things. I renew the registration on my car every year. Why not prove you're sane enough to own a gun that can massacre large numbers of people within a few minutes?

Trump says it's not a gun issue, but a mental health issue.

Start there.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Nov Mon 06, 2017 10:49 am

Whacko issue, Texas would not issue him a permit...

A bad guy for sure but a good guy with a gun stopped him... How's them apples?? What would be your cure at that time??

Legal U.S. gun owners have 300 million guns and probably a trillion rounds of ammo...
Seriously, mushy, if we were the problem, you'd know it!!

Run along...
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Nov Mon 06, 2017 10:57 am

a good guy with a gun stopped him
Yeah, that's the story, right? A little late for the 26, including a pregnant women and a bunch of kids.

No worries buddy, happiness is a warm gun...

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Nov Mon 06, 2017 11:08 am

True but in time for 27 and others don't you think

Mac66 you're a strange guy
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Nov Mon 06, 2017 11:13 am

Too bad that we both were not there even if just to plan the perfect defense against a totally random rat screw...

Blame the gun, it doesn't know any better... duhh, u need some new material, bore us...

It's still bad manners at it's nicest... I love your ideals but I hate your government's actions... But they are still kidding you...
How about Donna for Prez?? Best turn around I ever see in my country... If she disappears just add her on to the other 200...

Better to get at the root of this stuff instead of gazing @ the hardware!!!

Those tricks went away with marx and his assigns... All that evil and it still doesn't work... So what else, Ollie?
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Nov Mon 06, 2017 11:34 am

I hate your government's actions
Last I looked, the narcissist is in office, accompanied by a gop congress, gop governors, and supreme court...

All of this is on their watch...

Always fun to forget about that

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Nov Mon 06, 2017 12:00 pm

Last I looked, the narcissist is in office, accompanied by a gop congress, gop governors, and supreme court...

All of this is on their watch...

Always fun to forget about that
Who can forget how it got this way while your narcisist was in, transforming us all the time...
So, has marx become trunkated with the aging or is the halloween set going to take over?? ayers??
Nice deep cycle and it did give off a fright...

Screw the gop, I'm not one of those either... There are only two choices right now, a fork in the road, take it..
Will you?? Try something new and clean...
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Nov Mon 06, 2017 1:39 pm

An avid atheist and more important anti-God, he sounds like he's one of the lefts
Nice try with the deception. You're spending too much time with Kelly Ann and her "alternative facts."
Texas Department of Public Safety Regional Director Freeman Martin said Monday that the mass shooting stemmed from a domestic situation and was not racially or religiously motivated.

Authorities say that evidence at the scene leads them to believe that Devin Patrick Kelley died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound after he crashed his car.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Nov Mon 06, 2017 2:02 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... heism.html

this is one source, there's others

And you can do both be avid anti-god atheist and a domestic abuser. It's not a stretch The left will try and keep you uninformed about the the atheist issue.

Goofball do you think at all? He easily could have been shot by a civilian then took his own life

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06/te ... elley.html

another source
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Vlad_Rap » Nov Mon 06, 2017 3:19 pm

Trump says it's not a gun issue, but a mental health issue.
Then President Trump would be correct. Safe zones are another anti gun measure which accomplishes the opposite of what it was intended to do. A safe zone, created by insane, swamp donkey, cowards, is actually an open invitation to other insane cowards to wreak carnage on the most vulnerable.

Gun control is a mental health issue. But in order to come to a solution we have to include all insane persons - inside as well as outside of government.

Do you think Mo Healey is well?
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Nov Mon 06, 2017 3:21 pm

Even the marx aethiests especially found it easy to kill off Christians during the 'manifesto' years... By the millions...
That's what they do... Then they brought it here... How's it going??

The boy was only following his leaders...
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Nov Mon 06, 2017 7:55 pm

The single largest gap in the federal background check requirement is that unlicensed, private sellers are not required to conduct background checks. This means that, unless state law requires a background check for these sales, convicted felons, domestic abusers, and other ineligible people can legally buy guns—even though they would fail a background check if purchasing from an FFL.
Any suggestion of closing this gap invokes the fear and paranoia response, well stoked by the NRA. And, since the NRA raised 32 million for Trump, the issue will never be about guns.

Nothing will change.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by specialties » Nov Mon 06, 2017 8:45 pm

Nothing will change.
Including rotten government leadership...

Nice knit pick and a bit away from reality... A utopian knit picker... That's rich... :roll:
the issue will never be about guns.
Why should it be?? Can guns think?? Thinking U got people error... How come your shrinks can't fix it??

Does man have dominion over steel and gun powder?? Or do they have you all in a ball??
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Nov Tue 07, 2017 12:45 am

Mac66 you up to speed yet?
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by Mac66 » Nov Tue 07, 2017 7:21 am

Mac66 you up to speed yet?
Absolutely. Waiting for the next one. Maybe here.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Nov Tue 07, 2017 7:54 am

How is that possible? MA has stringent gun laws. If a person could not pass a back ground check he would never attempt to obtain a firearm, being in MA and knowing the law
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by bobkat » Nov Tue 07, 2017 11:27 am

JIMD wrote:
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How is that possible? MA has stringent gun laws. If a person could not pass a back ground check he would never attempt to obtain a firearm, being in MA and knowing the law
Jimd so are you for a national background check? also Jimd talks about the laws that concern a weapon . The link below shows the Massachusetts laws and some cases that have been in front of the courts.

https://www.mass.gov/service-details/ma ... er-weapons

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by bobkat » Nov Tue 07, 2017 11:29 am

There is no doubt that the United States is truly the Wild West. The link below is a shooting tracker . It is interactive site.


https://massshootingtracker.org/data/2017

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by JIMD » Nov Tue 07, 2017 12:29 pm

back ground checks are fine, but when a perp assaults on his wife and fractures the skull of his infant child, spends a year in jail is given a BCD. Then this vital history goes unreported by the USAF allowing the perp to purchase firearms. WTF that's our government doing it's job.

The MA firearm laws you posted are fine and law abiding citizens will comply, do you think for a second criminals give a rats ass, also the mandatory one year sentence for having an illegal firearm have been enforced 2 times since it's inception in the 70's, It's a fine example of our government protecting citizens. If the liberals really felt strongly about the dangers of firearms they would enforce the laws and in prison people for extended periods for violating laws on the books. In MA Liberals will never do that, they release firearms violators with a slap on the wrist, day in and day out.

Firearm violators don't face consequences until someone get seriously hurt
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Re: Gun Ban

Post by bobkat » Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:06 pm

JIMD please tell me what conservatives have done to address the problem. Every time there has been a mass shooting. The Republicans in congress state this is not the time to talk about this problem. So when is the time to talk about it. Another thing our gun laws must be working because it has been 17 years since a mass shooting in Massachusetts.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by HokieAl » Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:15 pm

Mac66 wrote:
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I renew the registration on my car every year.
No you don't. Assuming you're in MA and don't have a personalized plate.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by HokieAl » Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:19 pm

Mac66 wrote:
Nov Mon 06, 2017 10:36 am
First: given his bad conduct discharge from the AF, he should have been prevented from legally purchasing any weapon. He bought the thing after his discharge.

The Air Force says a mistake allowed Devin Patrick Kelley to buy guns.
Under federal law, his conviction disqualified him from legally possessing a firearm. But there was an apparent breakdown in getting information about his conviction to the proper federal database.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... wning-guns

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by HokieAl » Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:21 pm

bobkat wrote:
Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:06 pm
JIMD please tell me what conservatives have done to address the problem.
What have liberals done. Nothing. Every time one of these things happens, heartless liberals politicize it and attempt legislation that wouldn't solve a thing. People committing crimes aren't worried about having illegal weapons. Liberals are too dense to see that and prefer the idea that they're trying to the fact that it's senseless.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by HokieAl » Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:27 pm

bobkat wrote:
Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:06 pm
Another thing our gun laws must be working because it has been 17 years since a mass shooting in Massachusetts.
Flawed logic. Obviously an inability to process information.
Liberals believe in never letting a crisis go to waste
Every time some terrorist, wacko or radical kills people, liberals always want to take guns away from the people who didn’t do it
So what other gun control laws could liberals implement that would stop mass shootings?

None.

If you want to know why, take a look at some of the most prominent shootings in recent years starting with Stephen Paddock in Las Vegas.
Long story short, gun control isn’t the fix for mass murders. If you want gun control so badly, move to the South Side of Chicago where it already exists and leave all of us law-abiding gun owners alone.
And if you follow the news in Chicago (I happen to be in Chicago now), you will see that two more people were killed over the weekend when thugs were shooting at each other in cars and killed innocent bystanders.

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhaw ... s-n2391910

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by bobkat » Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:32 pm

HokieAl wrote:
Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:27 pm
bobkat wrote:
Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:06 pm
Another thing our gun laws must be working because it has been 17 years since a mass shooting in Massachusetts.
Flawed logic. Obviously an inability to process information.

HokieAl it is a fact the last mass shooting in Massachusetts took place in 2000. That is 17 years ago.

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by HokieAl » Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:40 pm

bobkat wrote:
Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:32 pm


HokieAl it is a fact the last mass shooting in Massachusetts took place in 2000. That is 17 years ago.
Your point that it's because of strict gun laws here was flawed logic. There's no correlation.

Should we ban pressure cookers?

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by HokieAl » Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:55 pm

BTW, it didn't take long to figure this out.

The last mass shooting in MA was in 2000 as you mentioned. December. Earlier in the year, MA started the most stringent gun control laws in the nation.

Did you understand that? Where's the correlation? You could just as easily make the case that thanks to the strict gun control laws just implemented, there was a mass shooting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/03/us/ma ... -laws.html

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Re: Gun Ban

Post by bobkat » Nov Tue 07, 2017 7:10 pm

HokieAl wrote:
Nov Tue 07, 2017 3:55 pm
BTW, it didn't take long to figure this out.

The last mass shooting in MA was in 2000 as you mentioned. December. Earlier in the year, MA started the most stringent gun control laws in the nation.

Did you understand that? Where's the correlation? You could just as easily make the case that thanks to the strict gun control laws just implemented, there was a mass shooting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/03/us/ma ... -laws.html
HokieAl we don't stick gun laws .I posted a link to the gun and weapons laws of Massachusetts. Our laws are common sense laws. We keep guns out of the hands of people that should not have a gun. Gun permits are not done by the state but by your local chief of Police.

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