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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by JIMD » Nov Mon 09, 2015 12:30 pm

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -you-think

good read, we owe 65 trillion, Americans refuse to see the reality, more like moonbats like Bridget who thinks Barry has had a good run, take about a separation from reality. Good grief how dumb can people be.
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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by specialties » Nov Mon 09, 2015 1:38 pm

They can and do always blame the repubs...

Us independents are watching and it's getting past sick...

Sure am glad for superior government...

Loosers without mezuzahs fer sure and they gotta get rid of Jesus and Jews!!!!

Why?? Do the robots know why?? Zombies??
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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by Mac66 » Nov Mon 09, 2015 4:58 pm

Obama is this close to leaving the WH and you guys are still fixated on his G.P.A.

Unbelievable.

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Post by HokieAl » Nov Mon 09, 2015 5:02 pm

Mac66 wrote:Obama is this close to leaving the WH and you guys are still fixated on his G.P.A.

Unbelievable.
He is too. Otherwise it would be public.

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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by JIMD » Nov Mon 09, 2015 5:29 pm

I'm not concerned with his GPA at all, He did apply as a foreigner. I want all the moonbats to see it.
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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by MCasper » Nov Tue 10, 2015 5:32 am

Bridges wrote:
HokieAl wrote:A haters mind is already made up.

BTW it's interesting that politico has changed their story a bit. IE the headline.
He lied about his record. Period.

West Point does not even offer scholarships. You enroll, you commit to serving in the military. There is no free ride...and no way you can explain away his statements from his book. They are inexplicable.

And he's running around saying what an angry thug he was in his younger days...except...nobody can seem to locate anyone who can corroborate that. Everyone who knew him back then, recalls no such anger at all. More lies? :roll:
You are a very dishonest person.

He never claimed to apply ...
Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn’t where I saw myself going. As overjoyed as I felt to be offered such a scholarship, I wasn’t really tempted. The scholarship would have obligated me to spend four years in military service after I finished college, precluding my chances to go on to medical school.”
Indeed, in “Gifted Hands,” Carson makes clear that he actually applied only to one school: Yale.
They advertised it as a full government scholarship...
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Post by JIMD » Nov Tue 10, 2015 8:11 am

It's always been a scholarship, Bridges is too stupid to communicate with. Tunnel vision to a fault.
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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by JIMD » Nov Tue 10, 2015 8:20 am

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/h ... obe-215630


Very cool, her arrogance is bringing her down
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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by specialties » Dec Sun 06, 2015 11:21 am

First it was the CHURCH, then the FAMILY, and now the NATION...

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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by Mac66 » Dec Tue 08, 2015 9:26 pm

Shepard Smith, Fox News anchor, on Trump:

Fox News anchor Shepard Smith is not a fan of Donald Trump's plan to no longer allow Muslim immigrants and tourists into the US.

During a Tuesday segment discussing Trump's plan, Smith said the Republican presidential front-runner "can't do this" and "he's crazy to even speak of it."

Smith made the comments during an interview with John Bussey, an editor at The Wall Street Journal.

Once Bussey pointed out that segments of the Republican-primary electorate have serious reservations about Islam, Smith further lit into Trump.

"A lot more need to be led by somebody, not to be dragged down the wormhole by some carnival huckster," Smith said of the public. "Somebody needs come up and remind them what this nation is and what we're about and how we dream, the way we were founded, and what our constitution is. He's not representing any of that. He's representing the worst, darkest part of all that is America."

Later in the interview, Smith said that the Republican Party establishment needs Trump to go away in order to avoid backlash from the real-estate mogul's hard-line views.

"It's the worst-kept secret on earth that the establishment needs him to go away," Smith said. "Because if he doesn't go away, there are great fears about what will become of this party as a national party."

And:

Tom Ridge, a former Republican governor of Pennsylvania who became the first secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, said Tuesday he would not vote for Trump. Ridge said that his anger over Trump’s popularity has been building for months and that he was frustrated that many fellow Republicans took so long to denounce the candidate’s rhetoric.

“I think the man is an embarrassment to my party,” said Ridge, who supports Trump’s rival Jeb Bush. “He’s an embarrassment to our country. We deserve better than this.”

Trump leads in the NH polls by 18 points.

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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by specialties » Dec Wed 09, 2015 4:54 am

Well keep on voting for isisisis then...

Oh, isil it is, why not include the destruction of Christans and Jews??

Moonbats have alger hiss, dembots have shrillary, bernie has communism, so that leaves the rest of us with the 'gift'...
Merry Christmas...

A fools game is one who only considers democrats vs. republicans...

Besides, there are enough patriotic, conservative Christians... Worked in 1776, WW1, WW2...

So, sons of stalin, hitler, mao, and pol pot, over the cliff, please!!! Y'all had a bad run...
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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by Mac66 » Dec Wed 09, 2015 6:57 am

Well keep on voting for isisisis then...
A vote for anyone other than Trump is a vote for the devil?

Throw in behind Rubio, or Fiorina, or Graham. Why sell out to a Trump? You have good choices. MCas talks about the deep bench; pick one.

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Post by HokieAl » Dec Wed 09, 2015 10:20 am

Mac66 wrote: A vote for anyone other than Trump is a vote for the devil?
A lot of backlash about what he said.

Is it really crazy?
Donald J Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on
Other presidents have done similar things in the past.

http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/ ... 709929.mp4

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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by Mac66 » Dec Wed 09, 2015 10:35 am

Well, ok then. Internment camps? Cash out the Muslims in our Armed Services? Prohibit doing business with Muslim vendors? Keep Muslim kids out of our schools?

Where does it end?

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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by specialties » Dec Wed 09, 2015 10:53 am

Easy, vote for more government leaders who insist that we not use 'hate speech' on what the terrorists do...

Looks like isisis and present admin are on the same page... And they will prosecute/persecute Christians who speak against them too!!!

Loverly!!! Is post term abortion applicable on moonbats??
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Post by MCasper » Dec Wed 09, 2015 11:26 am

Hero Liberal Democrats agree with Trump?

Here is what one did the last time we were at war with anyone who threatened us on the homeland ...

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The day after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt suspended naturalization proceedings for Italian, German, and Japanese immigrants, required them to register, restricted their mobility, and prohibited them from owning items that might be used for sabotage, such as cameras and shortwave radios. The curfews on Italian immigrants were lifted in October 1942, on Columbus Day.

Approximately 600,000 Italian aliens lived in the United States in 1940. About 1,600 Italian citizens were interned, and about 10,000 Italian-Americans were forced to move from their houses in California coastal communities to inland homes.
Here is what a co-sponsor (w. EMK) of the Immigration Act of 1965 which gave us the backassward policy we are mired in today...
McCarthy the politician had been known as a liberal’s liberal, but after he left behind the Senate and feelings of loyalty to the Democratic Party, he ranged far afield. He considered Jimmy Carter’s presidency disastrous and in October 1980 publicly backed Ronald Reagan. An Associated Press report said the endorsement “couldn’t come at a better time” for Reagan, who told reporters, “Maybe this will give people some confidence I don’t eat my young.”

McCarthy opposed campaign finance reforms that limited the size of individual contributions; such rules would have impeded his 1968 campaign, which was bankrolled by wealthy liberals. He was a plaintiff in the Buckley v. Valeo case in which the Supreme Court overturned restrictions on campaign spending. He said the scheme that offered public financing to major party candidates was akin to having two established religions. He testified in opposition to the McCain-Feingold law and received an award from the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2000. He also became a critic of affirmative action and came to regret his support for 1965 immigration reforms, joining the board of advisors for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which advocates for restrictions on immigration.
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Post by MCasper » Dec Wed 09, 2015 11:28 am

Mac66 wrote:Well, ok then. Internment camps? Cash out the Muslims in our Armed Services? Prohibit doing business with Muslim vendors? Keep Muslim kids out of our schools?

Where does it end?
He specifically said no interment camps. He specifically said not American citizens. If what he said is so bad ... why the need to expand it to counter it?
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Post by HokieAl » Dec Wed 09, 2015 11:28 am

Mac66 wrote:Internment camps? Cash out the Muslims in our Armed Services? Prohibit doing business with Muslim vendors? Keep Muslim kids out of our schools??
How do you make the leap from suspending muslim immigration to what you've listed above? No one suggested any action against Americans.

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Post by HokieAl » Dec Wed 09, 2015 11:31 am

MCasper wrote:Hero Liberal Democrats agree with Trump?

Here is what one did the last time we were at war with anyone who threatened us on the homeland ...
And don't forget the 2nd worst US president in my lifetime.
CARTER BANNED IRANIANS FROM COMING TO US DURING HOSTAGE CRISIS
Trump is just like Hitler. Or Jimmy Carter.
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Post by JIMD » Dec Wed 09, 2015 12:34 pm

is stated they will come to the US using the liberal immigration policies, the plan is to murder Americans. Trump is 100% correct. Stop the influx until the government can vastly improve the vetting process.

Mac why do you have a problem with this, it's about safety of US citizens. Why risk added American deaths?
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Post by MCasper » Dec Wed 09, 2015 4:13 pm

50% of Americans either favor this idea or aren't sure they oppose it.

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Post by Gidget » Dec Wed 09, 2015 6:22 pm

I think we need to revamp the entire refugee program. We are in debt up to our eyeballs. Refugees are a huge drain on our resources. We take in more refugees and immigrants than the rest of the world combined. Refugees go ahead of needy Americans for affordable housing. Middle america is hurting between cost of living and taxes while they haven't seen a pay raise in years. I just don't get it.

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Post by Mac66 » Dec Wed 09, 2015 8:44 pm

Mac why do you have a problem with this
1. It's campaign bullshyte. It will never come about. Just like his wall the Mexicans are going to pay for. Utter crap, and he knows it.

2. He's looking to ban an entire religious group from entering the US. Unprecedented.

3. It's a move based on fear.

4. It plays right into the recruiting efforts of the thugs.

5. It's a band-aid. He wants to lead, he needs a strong, decisive Syria policy. And the Congress needs to finally, finally, finally come up with a comprehensive immigration bill.

6. Anybody paying attention?
As Republicans squabbled over Donald Trump’s controversial proposal to bar all Muslims from traveling to the United States, the House on Tuesday overwhelmingly passed a bill imposing new restrictions on a visa waiver program that currently welcomes roughly 20 million people into the country each year.

The bill, which was approved on a 407 to 19 vote, would increase information sharing between the United States and the 38 countries whose passport-holders are allowed to visit the country without getting a visa, while also attempting to weed out travelers who have visited certain countries where they may have been radicalized.

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Post by MCasper » Dec Thu 10, 2015 7:27 am

Leaving aside how every time we try to defend ourselves from these monsters we hear the "plays right into the recruiting efforts" horse hockey ... Let me point out another bit of hard reality hidden in all of the dishonest and over-the-top reaction to The Donald's statements ...
Serving police officers today backed Donald Trump’s claim that some Muslim communities in the UK are no-go areas because of extremism.

Several Met officers have said the ‘Islamification’ of some parts of the capital requires ‘extra vigilance’ and they can’t wear uniforms for safety reasons – despite Scotland Yard claiming the tycoon ‘couldn’t be more wrong’.

Home Secretary Theresa May tonight rejected Mr. Trump’s claims, insisting: ‘The police in London are not afraid to go out and police the streets.’…

But one serving officer said today Trump had ‘pointed out something plainly obvious, something which I think we aren’t as a nation willing to own up to’.

Another policeman said that he and other colleagues fear being terror targets and spoke of the ‘dire warning’ from bosses not to wear a uniform ‘even in my own car’.
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Post by Mac66 » Dec Thu 10, 2015 8:05 am

Real-estate mogul Donald Trump has opened up his lead among Republican primary voters to nearly 20 points, according to a new New York Times/CBS poll out Thursday.

Trump garnered the support of 35% of Republican voters nationally, a 13-point increase from the last New York Times/CBS survey. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), at 16%, and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, at 13%, were his closest competitors. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida) was in fourth place, at 9%.

The Times noted that it was Trump's "strongest position yet" in the survey.

The poll was mostly conducted before Trump's statement on Monday pledging to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the US. Those comments have caused a firestorm both in and outside of the Republican Party.

Other polls, however, have already signaled that Trump may benefit from his proposal. A Bloomberg Politics survey released Wednesday found that nearly two-thirds of Republican primary voters backed his plan. And a Fox News poll of South Carolina Republicans found Trump gaining support in the days after announcing the proposal.
So much for the deep bench. We'll soon see if poll support translates into actual votes. Where's Romney when you need him? Assuming the worst, what would a Trump admin actually look like?

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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/12 ... v=top-news

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Post by Mac66 » Dec Fri 11, 2015 9:03 am

Jeb Bush on Trump:
"Look — the guy's not serious. He's not a serious person," Bush said. "He can't be commander-in-chief. He doesn't have plans. This is all dog-whistle talk. This is to provoke anger. This is to — with all due respect to the media — this is to generate massive attention to him. It's not about a serious plan. Is that a serious plan in all reality? Of course not."

Bush called Trump "unhinged" in a fierce statement minutes after learning of Trump's proposal early this week. Several of Trump's other rivals in the Republican presidential race also condemned his proposal.
But he's looking strong in NH.

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Post by HokieAl » Dec Fri 11, 2015 9:23 am

Mac66 wrote:Jeb Bush on Trump:



But he's looking strong in NH.

That and
Jeb Bush’s super PAC burning through money with little to show for it
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Post by Mac66 » Dec Fri 11, 2015 9:31 am

No argument Bush is spinning his wheels.

Doesn't mean he is wrong about Trump.

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Post by MCasper » Dec Fri 11, 2015 5:23 pm

Mac66 wrote:No argument Bush is spinning his wheels.

Doesn't mean he is wrong about Trump.

If you don't want Trump, you are rooting for Cruz in IA and Christie in NH. Bush and Kasich will see this by Jan. and throw their support his way.
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Post by Bridges » Dec Fri 11, 2015 5:54 pm

Trump is amazing. He's actually gotten to the point where he is reviled by pretty much EVERY other politician in his "own" party.
That's a hard thing to accomplish - can't remember when anyone else has done it.

He's racked up some great comments from those outside of politics.
J. K. Rowling wrote:How horrible. Voldemort was nowhere near as bad.
:shock: Wow - and of all people, SHE would know Voldemort. :lol:

Of course, even the real life Voldemort, Dick Cheney, despises Trump:
Dick Cheney on Trump wrote:“I think this whole notion that somehow we can just say no more Muslims, just ban a whole religion, goes against everything we stand for and believe in.” He added: “I mean, religious freedom has been a very important part of our history and where we came from. A lot of people, my ancestors got here, because they were Puritans.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -live.html
Muhammad Ali wrote:"I believe that our political leaders should use their position to bring understanding about the religion of Islam."
Prime Minister David Cameron said the comments were "divisive and unhelpful".
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... an-n476201
RNC Chair Reince Priebus wrote:"I don't agree," RNC Chair Reince Priebus told the Washington Examiner about Trump's proposal. "We need to aggressively take on radical Islamic terrorism but not at the expense of our American values."
Paul Ryan wrote:"This is not conservatism," Ryan said at a news conference with House Republicans Tuesday. "What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for and, more importantly, it's not what this country stands for."
Jeb Bush had one of the best comments:
Jeb Bush wrote:Donald Trump is unhinged. His "policy" proposals are not serious.
Marco Rubio wrote:I disagree with Donald Trump's latest proposal. His habit of making offensive and outlandish statements will not bring Americans together.
Chis Christie wrote: "Again, this is the kind of thing that people say when they have no experience and don't know what they're talking about. We do not need to endorse that type of activity, nor should we,"
Lindsey Graham wrote:If you want to make America great again, reject this without any doubt or hesitation."

He added that Trump supporters aren't getting "a strong man who's going to fix all of our problems" but "someone who is making it harder to win a war we can't afford to lose, that's a wrecking ball for the Republican party, who's a xenophobic, race baiting, religious bigot."
Xenophobic, race baiting, religious bigot?! :shock: Well, that explains why Mugsy, JIMD, Joseph, Gidget, and Mark Casper like him! =))

LIndsey is the ONLY GOP candidate in the current field with half a brain. Probably why McCain endorses him.

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Of course, all of this has now royally pissed of the Donald.
So now Trump, despite PROMISING to support the eventual nominee, is now backtracking yet again, and threatening a 3rd party candidacy.
And now Ben Carson is also making noise about not supporting the eventual nominee.

A GOP congressman just went on record stating he'd rather vote Dem, than vote for Trump.

This COULD NOT POSSIBLY be playing out better for the Dems. :lol:

This is A GOLD MINE for Hillary and the Dems. They can use every one of these quotes...every one of these soundbites, WORD FOR WORD.
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Post by lost cause » Dec Fri 11, 2015 6:38 pm

The problem for the Dem's and everybody else is that Trump is getting more popular with every comment. Also it will be hard for the Dem's to show he is a complete not case, when the most liberal guy ever in Pres. Carter did the same thing during the Iranian crisis. Actually he went further and start deporting people as well.

Of course there is always Clinton who wants:
URBANDALE, Iowa (AP) -- Hillary Clinton had just delivered some hard talk on terrorism, recalling tough decisions she made in the White House situation room as secretary of state and lashing out at her Republican rivals for threatening the safety of the American people.

But when an Iowa man broke into her riff with a question about how the country could confront a new wave of fear, her response sounded less like that of a commander in chief than of a soothing self-help guru. "We've got to do everything we can to weed out hate and plant love and kindness," she told a crowd of several hundred.
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Post by Bridges » Dec Fri 11, 2015 9:16 pm

Dream on if you think Trump is not the best gift the Dems ever had.

I don't think he'll ever get the nomination, but if he is looking like he's in the lead around that time, I suspect you'd be looking at the real possibility of a brokered convention, rather than Trump.

Yeah - he'd go independent, thus handing it over to Clinton all gift wrapped. But you are starting to hear an increasing number of GOP establishment saying the stakes are simply to high to trust them to Trump ...they'd rather see Hillary than Trump.

Trump will never be the GOP nominee...but I sure hope I am wrong! =))
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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by Bridges » Dec Fri 11, 2015 9:58 pm

lost cause wrote:The problem for the Dem's and everybody else is that Trump is getting more popular with every comment. Also it will be hard for the Dem's to show he is a complete not case, when the most liberal guy ever in Pres. Carter did the same thing during the Iranian crisis.
There is no rational comparison between what Carter did, and what Trump proposes.

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politics/n ... uslim-ban/
There is no legitimate comparison between Carter’s action and Trump’s proposal. Here’s why:

As observed above, during the hostage crisis the U.S. and Iran were in a state of something that amounted to a war, without the shooting. It is a common practice to expel citizens of a hostile country during wartime, but Carter’s actions didn’t do that. He merely ordered deported any Iranians whose visas were invalid, and refused to issue new visas to Iranian citizens. Carter’s actions were taken against anyone holding an Iranian passport, not against Iranians who were Muslim. In addition, those who were deported were not here because of refugee status, and they were not deported back to a war zone.

The charge of “racism” against Carter also doesn’t hold water. The author wants readers to believe that all Iranians are ethnically Persians. But like the United States, Iran is home to a number of different minority groups. Carter’s order didn’t block only ethnic Persians from entering the U.S. — it blocked anyone carrying an Iranian passport.

By contrast, Trump wants to keep all those who profess a certain religious belief out of the country. Muslims live in most of the world, including countries that are U.S. allies and those that are our adversaries. And, of course, there are Muslims who are American citizens. How exactly would this Muslim ban work? Muslims don’t carry passports that say, “I am a Muslim.”

President Carter took a reasonable, limited course of action during a time of tension between two sovereign nations. Trump is proposing actions that would bar all those who follow Islam from entering the U.S., no matter where they come from. If you wanted to send a message that America is at war with Islam, not just terrorists, there’s probably no better way to do it.
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Post by Joseph » Dec Sat 12, 2015 7:44 am

Uncanny how much Bridges is in-synch with the Main Stream Media.
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Post by Mac66 » Dec Sat 12, 2015 8:31 am

Main Stream Media.
Fox News is part of all that, right?

You figure it out on your own. MSNBC and CNN are not required viewing for anyone. If you want to be a citizen, you work at it. If you want to be lazy, you talk about how Lame Stream media or whatever is ruining the country.

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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by Vlad_Rap » Dec Sat 12, 2015 9:03 am

Fox News is part of all that, right?
Fox News IS part of the main stream media. Push come to shove Billow Riley and the RINO branch of mainstream media would back Hillary before they would back Ted Cruz or Trump. For now Fox's role is to provide the other side of another false dichotomy for CNN or MSNBC. They make each other money.

RINO candidates could be just as easily run as Democrats.

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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by Mac66 » Dec Sat 12, 2015 9:31 am

Regarding Republican candidates, I agree. Both sides foreign policy are interventionist, militaristic, aggressive, reform minded. Bush invaded Iraq to set the wheels of democracy loose in the Middle East. Instead, dissolving the military created the roots out of which came daesh.

Rand Paul preaches caution, and he's not even in the discussion.
The liberal-conservative consensus that shapes our approach to the world embraces both major political parties, most of the press, and the multinational economy. It leads to foreign policy that is not simply interventionist, but utopian, visionary, millennarian. Setting out to remake nations and entire regions, seeking to implant our version of democracy in distant lands, deposing governments and imposing others in their place, springing to the rescue of people we consider oppressed — these are breathtakingly radical projects. They more closely resemble Trotskyism, with its call for “permanent revolution,” than conservatism.

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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by MCasper » Dec Sat 12, 2015 9:59 am

Bridges wrote: ... Xenophobic, race baiting, religious bigot?! :shock: Well, that explains why ... and Mark Casper like him! =))
I'll vote for DT over HRC, BS or any D who might step in when/if HRC is indicted or falters (AlGore, Kerry or Michelle O.) I will cast a vote in my primary for all the folks that will be on the stage with Donald before Donald. I would even vote for Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee or Rick S before DT.

As far as the current topic, I disagree, but do not say he is crazy or way out in his opinion.

This represents my belief almost exactly ...



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Re: Republican Candidate Debates

Post by MCasper » Dec Sat 12, 2015 10:09 am

Mac66 wrote:...which came daesh.
Why didn't we think of this earlier? We could have fought the Nutzies. Or the Bitches. Of the Confemenants. The Viet Dong? We could won these wars so much quicker.

The liberals who still wail about terms like Krauts and Japs and Gooks now come up with this ridiculous nonsense to make their useless contribution to the war on Terror. Another stupid and meaningless term.
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