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The Blank Check

Post by Carson » Oct Sat 29, 2011 11:36 am

Here is the Ballot Question:

Shall the Town of Marshfield be allowed to be exempt from the provisions of Proposition two-and-one-half,so called,the amounts required to pay for the bonds issued in order to fund the construction of a new Marshfield High School and all costs incidental or related thereto,to be located on the site of the current High School,167 Forest Street,Marshfield,MA?

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Carson » Oct Sat 29, 2011 11:39 am

Key wording is "ALL COSTS INCIDENTAL OR RELATED thereto"???

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by specialties » Oct Sat 29, 2011 12:02 pm

Ugh!! Here we go again!!! :oops:

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by demorats » Oct Sat 29, 2011 1:17 pm

Don't worry you can trust that they will spend the money wisely and not spend one extra penny on anything that is not needed ! God knows they will not spend one dime on maintenance ! That is for sure just ask the H.S.roof or the Alamo. Why not just ask for 200 million ? How can anyone write these tools a blank check ?

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Marshead » Oct Sat 29, 2011 4:44 pm

As Bob Parkis knows all too well, there will be a dollar figure in the article by the time Town Meeting rolls around. He has been to enough Town Meetings in his day to know that the warrant often contains articles with no dollar figure because the details of a given project are still be worked out. His letter to the Mariner on that subject was as disingenuous as any I have seen in a long time -- he knows better.

Yes, the town will be on the hook for any cost overruns. But the last 5 model schools have ALL come in under budget -- by an average of $10 million.
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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Swamp Yankee » Oct Sat 29, 2011 5:34 pm

Marshead wrote:there will be a dollar figure in the article by the time Town Meeting rolls around. Yes, the town will be on the hook for any cost overruns. But the last 5 model schools have ALL come in under budget -- by an average of $10 million.

Nancy Holt: calculating an exact dollar amount to determine the total impact of a debt exclusion that would allow for the project to proceed is impossible because the exact dollar amount is not known and will not be known until the projects completion.

There is so much that is unknown it is really difficult to speculate, she said. But taxpayers can look at history and other factors that affect taxes in order to make their decisions. The biggest impacts would be seen in the first years after the total amount for the project is known and the permanent note is being paid back. It could be larger than what is being estimated. It could also be smaller.

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You are talking about a dollar figure for the ARTICLE at town meeting.
This thread is about the BALLOT question, there is NO dollar figure, it is a blank check:
"and all costs incidental or related thereto" That could mean anything from hiring new teachers to who knows what else, a blank check!

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Carson » Oct Sat 29, 2011 5:43 pm

Nancy Holt:"the exact dollar amount is not known and will not be known"

Gee,does that sound like they will have the exact amount on the ballot???

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by First Slyde » Oct Sat 29, 2011 7:52 pm

Seriously...let's put this to bed. Ballot questions for debt exclusions do NOT contain specific dollar amounts. Please read below for an explanation. Read it slowly and twice if you have to. And please stop the blank check nonsense.

From the Massachusetts Municipal Association's website:

"Q: If a debt exclusion ballot question does not specify a dollar amount, whats to determine its size?

A: Voter approval of a referendum question simply permits the community to increase its annual levy limit in order to fund the specified expenditure, according to the Division of Local Services. Even if a referendum is approved, a two-thirds vote of town meeting is needed to approve the issuance of any debt for a project identified in a debt exclusion question.

Exclusion questions are designed to fund specific capital projects. The purpose of the borrowing must be specified in the ballot question. The DLS limits the scope of a debt exclusion to the debt authorized or contemplated when the voters approved the exclusion, as well as any modest and reasonably foreseeable increases intended to account for inflation, regulatory requirements, or minor project changes. Significant increases in borrowing must be funded within the levy limit unless a second debt exclusion is approved to cover them. It is also important to note that an election may be held before or after the appropriating body has acted on the matter.

For more information see the DLS booklet Proposition 2 1/2 Ballot Questions: Requirements and Procedures, available online (www.dls.state.ma.us/publics.htm)."

This means that that the maxiumum dollar figure is set at Town Meeting and the ballot question would approve it.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Carson » Oct Sat 29, 2011 8:30 pm

Ya,let's put another thing to bed,nobody said it isn't legal.Of course it all is. :roll:
The wording on the ballot question is "all costs incidental or related thereto." That is pretty open ended in my slow English language.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Zech » Oct Sat 29, 2011 8:37 pm

maybe they can slyde on back to the facebook site?they believe anything they are told over there.
i agree with demorats might as well make it 200 million?why not?

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by First Slyde » Oct Sat 29, 2011 10:04 pm

Since you still think it's open ended, I will point out again that the debt exclusion is limited to the debt amount specified at Town Meeting. If at Town Meeting the debt cap is set at $52mm after the MSBA's reimbursement, then that it can only be exceeded for regulatory requirements, inflation or minor changes. Any significant funds that are required beyond the cap set at Town Meeting would require another approval process. Refering to the process as a blank check or open-ended is deceitful.

Also, you're missing the point about the language. It's NOT legal to put a dollar amount on the ballot. Very different that it being legal to not put it on there.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by goodguy » Oct Sun 30, 2011 6:22 am

Wah, wah, wah. Cry me a river. You all are only crying about this because all you can see is your property taxes going up. Never did occur to you to try to figure out some other way to pay for it, did you. Nope, you all would rather just cry about it instead of putting your energies into something constructive.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by bobkat » Oct Sun 30, 2011 6:39 am

goodguy wrote:Wah, wah, wah. Cry me a river. You all are only crying about this because all you can see is your property taxes going up. Never did occur to you to try to figure out some other way to pay for it, did you. Nope, you all would rather just cry about it instead of putting your energies into something constructive.

goodguy the only way you could eliminate property taxes paying for education . You would have to do it at the state level of government. Local and county governments only have the power to raise revenues through property taxes or user fees. As a nation that believes in public education . User fees would be unfair.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Glen Quagmire » Oct Sun 30, 2011 9:50 am

Duxbury may approve a new $128.4M middle/high school.
http://www.patriotledger.com/topstories ... dle-school

Hingham just approved a $62M middle school.
http://www.patriotledger.com/topstories ... hool-track

This is insanity that in this economy these towns are spending this much money. It also seems odd that all 3 towns are pushing these things all at the same time.
Giggity, giggity, giggity!

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by specialties » Oct Sun 30, 2011 11:27 am

Not to worry:

Americans will spend 6.9 billion dollars this year on holloween... That is regardless of the 'separation of church and state'...

It's all about priorities... Skyscrapers over knowledge... Tax and spend, that's the caper...
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Re: The Blank Check

Post by demorats » Oct Sun 30, 2011 7:59 pm

Ever think of anyone but yourself ? Elderly on fixed incomes or the unemployed that are barely getting their mortgage paid ? As long as you are all set ha goodguy ? Sounds like goodguy has blinders on,the hell with those who are suffering as long as goodguy is ok ! Try walking a mile in the less fortunates shoes,some through no fault of their own find themselves at the brink. Good guy is doing ok so lets raise everyones taxes 700 a year. Selfish Bast@*&

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by First Slyde » Oct Sun 30, 2011 8:25 pm

Nobody should be unsympathetic to the situation that some residents are in, and while you may argue that we shouldn't be in this situation with the high school building, the reality is that we are. Something is going to done because of the accreditation issue and the renovation option is about the same overall price if not more. And, yes, I know that you may think that those numbers are suspect, but the state's model school board is calling the shots because they are kicking in tens of millions of dollars. I believe that the Model School option is the best for all residents, including those having financial difficulties, because of this gift. It's not not a $400-$500 or so increase on taxes on the average home (sorry - you're $700 is inflated) compared to $0.

Many people think that this is a very smart investment and use of state funding that is already in the bank (not something that may not materialize) at a time when rates for borrowing are at historic lows. The financial situation could be far worse for the people facing tough times if the town shuns the Model School program and residents have to pay for all of it. Also, I believe that there are abatement options for seniors on fixed incomes and have heard that Marshfield is one of the only towns around, if not the only one, that allows interest free dererrals on the tax increases.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by goodguy » Oct Mon 31, 2011 4:23 am

bobkat, OK.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by specialties » Oct Mon 31, 2011 6:08 am

Nobody should be unsympathetic to the situation that some residents are in
Ahhh, go ahead and soak them anyway... No thanks, I'd rather google my info and find good social order at the same time...

Better to invest in charters, private, or church schools where the job gets done who also teaches industrial frugality...
No more brains with pipe dreams on paper...

Better still, find kids to support who have the fire in their belly and who want to learn...
Look for apprentice programs to support...

Too much 'going through the motions' , 'memorizing time tables' , and being lead by the inexperienced with lesser agenda and goals...

State school marms @ 800 large a year with an attitude, ugh!!!

Department of education, why??
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Re: The Blank Check

Post by goodguy » Oct Mon 31, 2011 7:59 pm

Wonder if there would be any problem getting a building if all kids had vouchers so they could go wherever they wanted. Think the private sector would have any problem dealing with this issue.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by bobkat » Oct Mon 31, 2011 9:09 pm

goodguy wrote:Wonder if there would be any problem getting a building if all kids had vouchers so they could go wherever they wanted. Think the private sector would have any problem dealing with this issue.
I am not sure if you really mean that a student could go where ever they wanted too. It is against the law in Massachusetts for any public money to be used in school that is base on religion . Also a voucher system leaves so many students behind.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by goodguy » Oct Mon 31, 2011 11:08 pm

Well bobkat, I think you should be in charge of education.

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Post by demorats » Oct Mon 31, 2011 11:52 pm

The 700+ is based on the fact that this town has more problems than just the school (Which would not be a problem if it were maintained properly over the years) The seawall will cost 30-50 million with no aid from the fed. The obsolete library they are building for 7-12 million.We need a fire house and the meals tax add on is not going to cut it. There are other schools in town that are in near as bad shape as the H.S. and not including the trane project will need significant work over the next 20 years. The Police station is obsolete and will need to be either renovated or replaced within the next 10-15 years. The bottom line is the people pushing the school could care less about the folks they are pushing out of their houses and town,some of those people built this town. Something has to give. Who cares though as long as your property values go up ! That is the bottom line for some of the advocates of the new school. I do not trust the people who let the H.S and other buildings in town crumble and to give them a new building that they will allow to crumble just like the alamo and H.S. This isn't about education its about egos,property values,and sports. Boston Latin and other 100+year old schools are doing a far better job of educating the kids than Marshfield and will continue to do so long after you get the new building which by the way does not add much square footage except an auditorium and pretty fields with artificial turf. Lose a field and build a science and technology center and I will be the first one to vote yes ! No the town would rather have a nice football stadium with a state of the art press box instead. This has never been about the kids and their education its ego mania,football and property values. Guess what you can build a 500 million dollar school and if the schools continue to perform as they have and surrounding towns improve the delivery of a solid education stressing math,science and tech your property values will plumet ! Touchdown rams is more important than an education and that is the problem. They should have a coarse on building maintenance but you can not teach what you do not know. The building is not going to improve the education system in town, the residents are going to have to demand changes including performance based pay for teachers like charter schools. By the by I am sure Sarah Marples and the Marshfield teachers union are going to bypass a few of the usual 3% raises in order to do their part "for the children". Park your egos at the door and your selfish attitude and lets design a state of the art school geared toward education instead of sports,property values and fueling your egomania ! Is it about the kids or not ? The plan on the table will do nothing to improve the quality of the education the children are recieving and shouldn't it be ? Touchdown Rams ! But we still lose the game !

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by bobkat » Nov Tue 01, 2011 1:24 am

goodguy wrote:Well bobkat, I think you should be in charge of education.
goodguy ever since you have posted here. You have complained about how we fund things here in Marshfield and the State.

Well it is time for you to come forward and tell us how to fund government . Please put in some facts to back up your idea .

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by goodguy » Nov Tue 01, 2011 9:22 am

Oh please, read the history. If you can.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by bobkat » Nov Tue 01, 2011 9:28 am

goodguy wrote:Oh please, read the history. If you can.
I would if you can produce a history with some facts to go on with.

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demorats wrote:The 700+ is based on the fact that this town has more problems than just the school (Which would not be a problem if it were maintained properly over the years) The seawall will cost 30-50 million with no aid from the fed. The obsolete library they are building for 7-12 million.We need a fire house and the meals tax add on is not going to cut it. There are other schools in town that are in near as bad shape as the H.S. and not including the trane project will need significant work over the next 20 years. The Police station is obsolete and will need to be either renovated or replaced within the next 10-15 years. The bottom line is the people pushing the school could care less about the folks they are pushing out of their houses and town,some of those people built this town. Something has to give. Who cares though as long as your property values go up ! That is the bottom line for some of the advocates of the new school. I do not trust the people who let the H.S and other buildings in town crumble and to give them a new building that they will allow to crumble just like the alamo and H.S. This isn't about education its about egos,property values,and sports. Boston Latin and other 100+year old schools are doing a far better job of educating the kids than Marshfield and will continue to do so long after you get the new building which by the way does not add much square footage except an auditorium and pretty fields with artificial turf. Lose a field and build a science and technology center and I will be the first one to vote yes ! No the town would rather have a nice football stadium with a state of the art press box instead. This has never been about the kids and their education its ego mania,football and property values. Guess what you can build a 500 million dollar school and if the schools continue to perform as they have and surrounding towns improve the delivery of a solid education stressing math,science and tech your property values will plumet ! Touchdown rams is more important than an education and that is the problem. They should have a coarse on building maintenance but you can not teach what you do not know. The building is not going to improve the education system in town, the residents are going to have to demand changes including performance based pay for teachers like charter schools. By the by I am sure Sarah Marples and the Marshfield teachers union are going to bypass a few of the usual 3% raises in order to do their part "for the children". Park your egos at the door and your selfish attitude and lets design a state of the art school geared toward education instead of sports,property values and fueling your egomania ! Is it about the kids or not ? The plan on the table will do nothing to improve the quality of the education the children are recieving and shouldn't it be ? Touchdown Rams ! But we still lose the game !

Lol,demorats!Good post!!How many turf fields are we up to now?How many tracks?That should boost the SAT scores!Well,at least we know we are getting a larger gym.Probably be called the Lou Silva gym and football field. :lol:

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Post by Marshead » Nov Tue 01, 2011 10:18 am

The kids should be forced to wear empty potato sacks for uniforms and walk barefoot in the snow to school. That will teach them...

Or maybe turf fields cost practically nothing to maintain once they are built, last for decades, and save money over the long term. (Not as sexy as your "Sports Palace" foolishness, but there you have it.)
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Marshead wrote:Or maybe turf fields cost practically nothing to maintain once they are built, last for decades, and save money over the long term. (Not as sexy as your "Sports Palace" foolishness, but there you have it.)
Chip I believe the school needs to be rehab or replaced . But you are so wrong about the cost of a artificial turf field.

Maintenance
It is a myth that synthetic fields require less maintenance than natural turfgrass fields or to say that artificial turf fields are maintenance free. Synthetic fields require 1) additional infill, 2) irrigation because of unacceptably high temperatures on warm-sunny days, 3) chemical disinfectants, 4) sprays to reduce static cling and odors, 5) drainage repair and maintenance, 6) erasing and repainting temporary lines, and 7) removing organic matter accumulation. In a recent presentation by the Michigan State University, Certified Sports Turf Manager, she cited that the typical annual maintenance costs of her artificial turf fields ranged from $13,720-$39,220, while the typical annual maintenance costs of her natural turf fields had a similar range of $8,133-$48,960 (1).


Long-term costs
Long-term costs are less with natural turf fields compared to synthetic turf fields. Artificial fields need replacing every 8-10 years, whereas a natural turf field does not need as frequent renovation and can be renovated at a much reduced price compared to an artificial field. In a 16-year scenario, Fresenburg came up with an annual average cost for each field type as follows: the natural soil-based field, $33,522; the sand-cap grass field, $49,318; the basic synthetic field, $65,846; and the premium synthetic field, $109,013 (2).



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With the track record this town has maintenance on school property . I would even say the life of these fields are shorter than what this link says about synthetic fields.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by ajax77 » Nov Tue 01, 2011 12:09 pm

Bobkat - on this we agree!!

I don't trust the town to properly maintain a turf field one bit.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Carson » Nov Tue 01, 2011 12:30 pm

They have not properly maintained a dam thing in that school for years and to think they are going to maintain not just ONE but TWO 2+ million turf stadiums is ridiculous.Can you see them cleaning up the blood,spit and skin left on the field???? :roll:

Bob is right on the findings on turf fields.There has been a lot more study done on them of late.Not good.

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Post by Marshead » Nov Tue 01, 2011 3:49 pm

When comparing turf fields to natural grass fields, don't forget to factor in that natural grass fields are supposed to be rested for an entire season once every 3-4 years. That hasn't happened on ANY field in town in my kids' lifetimes -- especially not the MHS fields. The demand by school and town programs is simply too high relative to the number of fields we have available. Not even a major league grounds crew could keep the MHS fields in decent shape, given the intensity of the use and the lack of rest periods for them. Turf fields make perfect sense, given the town's shortage of fields. Never again should our boys AND girls soccer teams have to play their "home" playoff games at Silver Lake, as happened last year. It is NOT a lack of maintenance. It is too damn many players playing too many sports almost non-stop around the calendar. Period. As a soccer coach for many years standing on those sidelines, I'm tired of having the crappiest, most dangerous fields on the South Shore.

BTW, Carson and Bob -- how old are your kids, if I might ask?
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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Carson » Nov Tue 01, 2011 5:08 pm

" It is too damn many players playing too many sports almost non-stop around the calendar."
Kinda answered your own question.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by bobkat » Nov Tue 01, 2011 9:17 pm

Marshead you know my children are 31 and 29

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by demorats » Nov Tue 01, 2011 9:56 pm

Ask Scituate if their turf field is cheaper. They have to redo it and it is only a few years old. The price of the field is not as important as the number of athletes injured on turf. regardless of price more kids get injured on turf than natural grass and some of those injuries are serious,more acl's,turf toes,annd other career ending injuries to kids. Can you put a price on that ? I like the burlap sacks for uniforms idea ! You are brilliant. Once again the rational comments have been twisted into burlap sacks ! Thats right rational thinking, You ought to try it sometime instead of twisting every word to fit your agenda. Typical. Sports should be part of an education not the most important part. Judging from the percentage spent on fields and tracks instead of science and technology this plan is telling as to the priorities of the designers and what was requested of the designers. Most athletes in Marshfield will go pro though so why stress the actual education part of the school day. =)) That gut on T.V. that says "I pick things up and put them down " over and over is what we can expect around town from the graduates I guess. Property values will go up so who cares and you can all pat eachother on the back and feed your allready inflated egos at the grand opening of "The Marshfield sports center and school",note the order of the name you egomaniacs. How many more times is Town meeting going to purchase books for the kids out of the general fund due to the school comm. spending money on more important thing like raises and bulap sacks ? God knows they havn't spent the money on maintenance, thats for sure. Books ? Who needs books ? Footballs is what we need. Who the heck ordered books ? =)) =))

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Marshead » Nov Tue 01, 2011 11:37 pm

" It is too damn many players playing too many sports almost non-stop around the calendar."

Kinda answered your own question.
Carson, there are many student-athletes at MHS. It's a large school, with many teams. There are also many youth sports leagues in this town, and even some adult ones. Is that a bad thing, that the town has a large population of people who are into sports and fitness? Sorry if an excess of demand over supply when it comes to playing fields doesn't fit your "lack of maintenance" theme, but that's the simple fact of the matter, and why the Marshfield Youth Soccer program has been trying for years to build its own playing fields.

Demo --

Spare us the sports physiology baloney, which you don't even begin to care about, and almost certainly have no experience with. I've played soccer on that Scituate field, and I've coached on it. And I can tell you from personal experience that it is "springier" and more forgiving than a grass field, especially the grass/dirt/gravel mix that typifies most fields here in Marshfield due to their chronic overuse. And that's not to mention how much better a turf field drains during or after a rainstorm, as compared to the mud puddles that spring up on our grass/dirt fields after even a light rain and pose a much bigger threat to ACLs and ankles than any turf field.
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Re: The Blank Check

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MARSHEAD:
Find some time to read this: http://stma.cms.memberfuse.com/sites/st ... Fields.pdf
and you will be enlightened by the following:

Natural fields are the preferred playing surface among athletes. In 2008, a survey was conducted to evaluate what kind of playing surface NFL players preferred. 1565 players from all 32 teams participated in this survey.
¢ 71% of the players preferred to play on natural grass fields.
¢ 15% preferred artificial infill.
¢ 11% had no preference.

Native soil fields hold less potential for injury.
The most frequent injuries sustained on sports fields are those to the ankles and knees from rotating and changing directions on the field surface. A recent study at Michigan State University measured the effects that size and structure of infill materials would have on the rotational resistance of cleated shoes. Sixteen different surfaces were tested, including native soil and sand based fields, using testing methods conformed to the ASTM standard method for traction characteristics of an athletic shoe-surface interface. Cleated football shoes were mounted on a rigid footform and used on the surfaces. Results found that torque was significantly affected by field surface. Native soil fields reported the lowest torque overall.

Inclement weather can lead to standing water and muddy conditions if the drainage system is not effective. This causes surfaces to be unsafe and unplayable.
To solve standing water problems, make sure there is a sufficient crown to move water off the field effectively and check that the drainage systems operate efficiently. If rain tarps are available, they can help keep rain off the field to allow for playability.

The overuse of many community sports facilities can push the limits of turf to recover. Excessive traffic leads to compaction and bare areas, which can cause a surface to be unsafe and unplayable. Scheduling more events than a field can handle results in overuse.
To help prolong the life of natural fields:
¢ Rotate activities between fields.
¢ Limit use of fields to only necessary events.
¢ Change daily location of practices on the field.
¢ Use a portable goal and move it around the field, thus limiting wear in the area of the mounted goal posts.
¢ Have players do individual warm-ups off of the field.
¢ Execute team drills outside of painted numbers.
¢ Spread seed in wear areas before games and practices.


I'm sure the town has the right person(s) for the maintence job.

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Marshead » Nov Wed 02, 2011 12:18 pm

The overuse of many community sports facilities can push the limits of turf to recover. Excessive traffic leads to compaction and bare areas, which can cause a surface to be unsafe and unplayable. Scheduling more events than a field can handle results in overuse.
To help prolong the life of natural fields:
¢ Rotate activities between fields.
¢ Limit use of fields to only necessary events.
¢ Change daily location of practices on the field.
¢ Use a portable goal and move it around the field, thus limiting wear in the area of the mounted goal posts.
¢ Have players do individual warm-ups off of the field.
¢ Execute team drills outside of painted numbers.
¢ Spread seed in wear areas before games and practices.
Gee, why didn't any of us in the local athletic community think of any of this stuff before? If only we had tried these novel and non-intuitive techniques, perhaps we wouldn't have had the crappiest, most dangerous playing fields on the entire South Shore for the last decade. Maybe the MHS boys and girls soccer teams could have played their "home" playoff games at MHS instead of Silver Lake last fall, and maybe my U-14 girls soccer team wouldn't have had to play its "home" games in Duxbury last spring. Thanks!
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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Joseph » Nov Wed 02, 2011 12:31 pm

Marshead wrote:
The overuse of many community sports facilities can push the limits of turf to recover. Excessive traffic leads to compaction and bare areas, which can cause a surface to be unsafe and unplayable. Scheduling more events than a field can handle results in overuse.
To help prolong the life of natural fields:
¢ Rotate activities between fields.
¢ Limit use of fields to only necessary events.
¢ Change daily location of practices on the field.
¢ Use a portable goal and move it around the field, thus limiting wear in the area of the mounted goal posts.
¢ Have players do individual warm-ups off of the field.
¢ Execute team drills outside of painted numbers.
¢ Spread seed in wear areas before games and practices.
Gee, why didn't any of us in the local athletic community think of any of this stuff before? If only we had tried these novel and non-intuitive techniques, perhaps we wouldn't have had the crappiest, most dangerous playing fields on the entire South Shore for the last decade. Maybe the MHS boys and girls soccer teams could have played their "home" playoff games at MHS instead of Silver Lake last fall, and maybe my U-14 girls soccer team wouldn't have had to play its "home" games in Duxbury last spring. Thanks!

Once again - Marshead - detached from reality - ignores the obvious figures and tries to obfuscate, make up stuff ("The crappiest, most dangerous playing fields..."),and insult his way to justification of a hare-brained scheme. :roll:
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The Blank Check

Post by Marshead » Nov Wed 02, 2011 1:03 pm

Once again - Marshead - detached from reality - ignores the obvious figures and tries to obfuscate, make up stuff ("The crappiest, most dangerous playing fields..."),and insult his way to justification of a hare-brained scheme.
Once again, I ground my arguments in objectively-provable facts and/or direct personal experience, while Joseph tries to call balls and strikes from the top row of the outfield bleachers, not even aware of the rules of the game or which teams are playing.
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