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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by specialties » Oct Fri 07, 2016 8:34 am

And did you receive this epiphany from howard zinn??
First it was the CHURCH, then the FAMILY, and now the NATION...

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Jackster » Nov Tue 01, 2016 8:56 pm

Hi guys. Anything new? ;)

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Carson » Nov Tue 01, 2016 10:34 pm

Jackster wrote:Hi guys. Anything new? ;)
Are you back from the dead??? :shock: Must be a Halloween prank,eh? :mrgreen:
Well,since you been gone..............nothings changed after 61 pages and years later!!!

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Jackster » Nov Tue 01, 2016 11:24 pm

Haha, so I see. Reports of my death may have been exaggerated.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Dec Thu 08, 2016 4:23 pm

Four (At least) jet operations today --and counting.

And there are large turboprop planes coming and going regularly like NEVER before.

THAT is why the airport was EXPANDED.
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Dec Mon 12, 2016 7:45 pm

At least seven (7) jet and large turboprop 'operations' today --- so far.

This is why the airport was EXPANDED.
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Dec Thu 22, 2016 8:27 pm

Wow.
Jet Takeoff at 6:45 A.M. today. Very noisy and very smelly. Wind was calm to very light from the south so-- exhaust fumes settled over and were persistent in the neighborhood in the low 1000 section of Ocean Street and adjacent streets like Musket, Taft, etc.
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What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Mulligan » Dec Fri 23, 2016 1:41 pm

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.....AND TO ALL A GOOD "FLIGHT!"

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Dec Wed 28, 2016 9:04 am

Mulligan wrote:MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.....AND TO ALL A GOOD "FLIGHT!"

Oh, yes. How quaint. Just like when a loud jet arrival woke me up at 12:42 A.M. the other night.
I thought it was Santa's sleigh.

You're a Tool.
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Mulligan » Dec Wed 28, 2016 3:22 pm

Hmmm, the jury is still out on that. By the way - what is your court date for dressing up like a terrorist?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by clover » Dec Wed 28, 2016 6:35 pm

Mulligan wrote:Hmmm, the jury is still out on that. By the way - what is your court date for dressing up like a terrorist?
Isn't it a shame that the real criminals go free, while a make-believe one feels the heat?

It was really quite something to listen to Town Counsel Bob Galvin, in a ZBA hearing back on November 1st, speak about the very way the airport intentionally, illegally got approved.

While explaining the process and possibility of wrongly approving projects, Bob Galvin says to the Zoning Board,

"You can grant the wrong zoning relief and allow something. Um, for example you could grant a special permit where a variance is required and if nobody appeals it then it stands."..."You can inappropriately grant a special permit for something that was supposed to need a variance, and if nobody appeals it then that special permit stands."

Yup, there it was, right out in the open, the secret to "wrongly" and "inappropriately" approving government/town projects in zones they are not supposed to be in.

Makes me feel really good that a guy who dressed in a costume might have a court date. :roll:

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Jan Thu 05, 2017 8:56 pm

The jet fumes in the Fieldston area were SO BAD around 7:00 P.M. tonight that it was LITERALLY difficult to breathe.

They were apparently due to a jet takeoff at about that time. Weather conditions were cold with calm to light southerly wind.
The heavy, acrid fumes settled over an area and persisted.

A jet just arrived on Runway 24 and there is another blanket of heavy jet exhaust fumes in the area.
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What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Eric K » Jan Mon 09, 2017 5:38 pm

Joe,
Drove down your street today and a plane flew over getting ready to land at airport just as I was driving towards airport.
Oh man, your street should be listed on the airport chart as a runway. Wow!!!!
Anybody wants to know what it is like just park on the street and wait. You think Joe is just griping about nothing think again.
You can actually see the exhaust pouring out of this plane right down the street.
Thank goodness we have town leaders that care about its citizens and it's neighborhoods. NOT!
I can only imagine what the massive harbormaster building will bring to that neighborhood.
Another neighborhood to be destroyed by town leaders.
I possibly could include unelected boards also.
Don't let me forget that an attorney could possibly be thrown in there if what I have been reading lately is accurate.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by JIMD » Jan Sat 14, 2017 5:58 am

Good Dog

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Eric K » Jan Sat 14, 2017 1:40 pm

That was an education piece.
I guess we will have to see what bridges counters with.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by JIMD » Jan Sat 14, 2017 6:48 pm

I look at it as if someone took a tank of fuel with a sprayer and walk down a Marshfield street spraying hydrocarbons on people lawns and houses he'd get arrested, the spent fuel lands on people houses. Tons of crap
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Jan Sun 15, 2017 12:01 am

Eric K wrote:That was an education piece.
I guess we will have to see what bridges counters with.
Bridges, as usual, would tell you about 'wonder fuels' and jets that can take off from the average home driveway, etc.
He wouldn't talk about how harmful jet engine/turboprop exhaust fumes are. Gee, he'd fit right in with the town's Board of Health, Conservation Commission, ZBA or Selectmen.

"The world's airlines use some 205 million tons of aviation fuel (kerosene) each year, producing greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxides, ozone, sulfur dioxide, and methane.

....

Planes use the most fuel, and produce the most harmful emissions, during takeoff. On short flights, as much as 25 percent of the total fuel consumed is used at this time."


See: http://www.worldwatch.org/planes-utiliz ... ng-takeoff

It is incredible how the stink from these jet operations in Marshfield spreads over such large areas and lingers.

You would think that all of the 'conservation-minded' folks from ALL OVER Marshfield would be rushing to help save the other folks and the environment.

Selectman John Hall had it right when he said that the airport EXPANSION was 'all about the jets.' (That was when he was a candidate. He clammed-up AFTER he got elected.).
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What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Eric K » Jan Sun 15, 2017 2:08 am

That's a good way of looking at it from that video JimD.
Speaking of John Hall, does anyone know what he is doing these days?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Jan Sat 28, 2017 8:07 pm

Looking forward to the day when the errors and trickery of greedy, inconsiderate and arrogant people and inept town and state officials will be corrected and, Marshfield will regain open and conservation space.

The long-suffering residents of Santa Monica now have an 'offer' of a Settlement with the Federal government to close their local airport:

"Press Release – FAA Reaches Settlement Agreement with City of Santa Monica
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For Immediate Release
January 28, 2017
Contact: Laura Brown
Phone: 202-359-3680, email: laura.j.brown@faa.gov
WASHINGTON–The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the City of Santa Monica, California have reached a settlement agreement to resolve longstanding litigation over the future of Santa Monica Airport.

The agreement requires the city to maintain continuous and stable operation of the airport for 12 years, until December 31, 2028, and after that the City has the right to close the airport.
In recognition of the city's authority to make decisions about land use, the agreement allows Santa Monica to shorten the airport's single runway to 3,500 feet from its current length of 4,973 feet. The city is obligated to enter into leases with private aeronautical service providers to ensure continuity of those services until the runway is shortened and it decides to provide such services on its own.

"Mutual cooperation between the FAA and the city enabled us to reach this innovative solution, which resolves longstanding legal and regulatory disputes," said FAA Administrator Michael Huerta. "This is a fair resolution for all concerned because it strikes an appropriate balance between the public's interest in making local decisions about land use practices and its interests in safe and efficient aviation services."
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Jan Mon 30, 2017 8:36 pm

There are still jet exhaust fumes lingering in the area from an earlier arrival.

Selectmen do not respond to concerns and complaints.

Board of Health does not respond to concerns and complaints.
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Feb Mon 13, 2017 9:48 pm

So many accidents involving private jets.

Here's one that skidded off of the runway at Hanscom Field, Bedford, Mass., yesterday.

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Tail says N2288A(?)

"The plane is registered to a Bank of Utah aircraft owner trust, according to FAA records."
Yeah, right.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_ ... at_hanscom
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Feb Thu 23, 2017 6:48 pm

Jets...jets...and more jets.

The residents of Santa Monica, California are trying to close the local airport.
Phasing out that airport will start with reducing the usable runway to 3,500.
It is known that this will effectively eliminate the jet traffic.

Why is this relevant? Because the Marshfield airport runway was expanded from 3,000 to 4,000 feet. Get it?
Former selectman John Hall put it succinctly: 'The expansion is all about the jets.'

The EXPANSION project - an offensive, really, was a textbook example of how to bamboozle and deceive the public so that a very few wealthy and avaricious individuals could reap big benefits.
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What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Feb Thu 23, 2017 11:06 pm

Jet arrival at about 9:30 P.M. results in horrible jet exhaust infiltrating our lungs.

Is there ONE, just ONE town official for whom this is a 'problem'?

Or, maybe they want 'critics' to...DIE.
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What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Feb Tue 28, 2017 9:57 am

http://marshfield.wickedlocal.com/news/ ... e-die-offs

'A type of pesticide many beekeepers blame for mass bee die-offs would come under tighter regulation under a bill filed in the Massachusetts legislature in January.

"I believe this is a responsible attempt to limit the amount of these pesticides in the environment, while recognizing the need to use these chemicals responsibly in agriculture," said state Rep. Carolyn Dykema, D-Holliston, the bill's main sponsor. "When they're used judiciously and properly, we can mitigate the impact on pollinators." '



There is a 'vegetation management' plan for the HUGE areas around the airport.
Besides shredding and squashing vegetation - including in wetlands areas - guess how they are permitted to kill growth?

Did you know that they also have a permit to kill wildlife that 'interfere' with 'operations'?

Yup - your Marshfield offcials are SO HAPPY to have an airport. And Jim Cantwell is SO HAPPY that he brought in the bacon for the project.

Spreading pesticides, killing animals, driving thousands of chemically-treated poles into the wet earth - including next to rivers - and spraying toxic jet exhaust laden with micro-particles that can penetrate deep into our lungs. Do you think it kinda all adds up after a while?

Who is keeping track of the airport?

Think that they can be trusted?

"11/19/13: MassDEP issued a Unilateral Order to George D. Harlow Field (Marshfield Airport) for Wetlands violations at 93 Old Colony Lane. MassDEP's Wetlands program issued a Unilateral (Enforcement) Order and Notice of Noncompliance to the town of Marshfield Airport Commission for violations of the variance Order of Conditions that was properly issued on 6/1/12. A number of conditions contained in the variance Order of Conditions have either not been complied with, or were not complied within the timeframe established in the variance. The violations include failure to submit required plans and reports, as well as implementing changes to the approved plans without prior MassDEP approval. Today's Order directs the Airport Commission to read and comply with the terms and conditions contained in the variance Order of Conditions and to submit the required material within 30 days."

http://www.mass.gov/eea/agencies/massde ... -2013.html
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by lost cause » Mar Wed 01, 2017 1:14 pm

You do know that the only people who care about the airport are the people who were stupid enough to buy a house next to it.
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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by clover » Mar Wed 01, 2017 6:06 pm

lost cause wrote:You do know that the only people who care about the airport are the people who were stupid enough to buy a house next to it.
They way our Town Government and Zoning Board of Appeals act to give illegal permission to expand, everyone in town is stupid since one never knows when a neighbor will be able to bypass the zoning laws.

Also, many residents may be stupid but only some are the a-holes who do nothing to try to stop the wrongdoings that are known to be going on

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Eric K » Mar Wed 01, 2017 7:01 pm

I did not buy a house next to airport and have them flying just above trees where I live.
You have to wonder why we even have these boards when it seems like they throw the rule book out the window.

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Post by Vlad_Rap » Mar Thu 02, 2017 10:10 am

Also, many residents may be stupid but only some are the a-holes who do nothing to try to stop the wrongdoings that are known to be going on
...all over town.
You have to wonder why we even have these boards when it seems like they throw the rule book out the window.
I'm thinking they're trying to get all these lawless, back room, land deals done before the tide turns on them here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

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Post by Zech » Mar Thu 02, 2017 11:30 am

lost cause wrote:You do know that the only people who care about the airport are the people who were stupid enough to buy a house next to it.
then there are stupid people who rent houses and bitch on homeowners that care about where they live

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by bobkat » Mar Thu 02, 2017 2:54 pm

Zech wrote:
lost cause wrote:You do know that the only people who care about the airport are the people who were stupid enough to buy a house next to it.
then there are stupid people who rent houses and bitch on homeowners that care about where they live

Lost cause has a valid point. You have ask yourself which came first the houses or the airport . So you should have known better when you bought a home near the airport. Another thing could you explain what you mean from your posting about stupid people who rent.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by clover » Mar Sun 12, 2017 8:35 pm

What's this transparent little blurb?

The agenda for tomorrow night's (Monday 13th) Board of Public Works meeting shows this "Action Item."

4. Woodbine Road/Private Fence Request
Within Road Layout Next to Airport


Who is making a "private" fence request where the fence is apparently in the road??? Is a resident planning a fence in the street??? Or is this what we talked about on this forum last year? Is this the Airport Commission blocking off some part of the street?

It'll be interesting to find out just who is behind this "private fence request" and exactly where this "private fence" is planned for. Are these "private" people planning to follow the laws of the town and state when it comes to this "private fence?"

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by bobkat » Mar Sun 12, 2017 11:10 pm

clover maybe it is the type of Private Fence that blocks noise .

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Mar Mon 13, 2017 3:32 pm

Maybe it's a 'scrivener's error.'

In other words, you are supposed to use your psychic powers in order to understand what it is they REALLY want to do.
Why do so many officials FEAR and kowtow to the Marshfield Airport gang?

What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Seahag » Mar Tue 14, 2017 11:47 am

And maybe you could have gone to the DPW meeting last night and asked the question right there! Instead of presupposing this or that or the other thing. Just a thought.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by specialties » Mar Tue 14, 2017 1:01 pm

Josephus!!

Why did you move there, knowing about planes and everything, and the way people are??
If you sued the chain you'd be living on knob hill by now...

Take it easy on the locals...
First it was the CHURCH, then the FAMILY, and now the NATION...

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Joseph » Mar Wed 15, 2017 12:16 pm

specialties wrote:Josephus!!

Why did you move there, knowing about planes and everything, and the way people are??
If you sued the chain you'd be living on knob hill by now...

Take it easy on the locals...
I am 'the locals.' The Regime and go-alongs/spectators should take it easy on me.
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What is the source of their power? Does it involve some kind of unseemly enterprise? A government entity?

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Seahag » Mar Wed 15, 2017 5:59 pm

Yup, I'm a local too! And I did just watch the tape of the DPW meeting this week where they discussed the fence in question, and I did see that you were there and asked a few questions, and I believe the outcome is that they are asking the Town Engineer to draft a letter to the Airport Commission and ask them about the fence in question and to report back to them. And, I believe also, to ask the Airport Commissioners to come to the next meeting and explain.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by clover » Mar Wed 15, 2017 6:27 pm

Seahag wrote:And maybe you could have gone to the DPW meeting last night and asked the question right there!...
Of course people went to the DPW meeting, but there were no answers because no fence plan had been submitted before the meeting. No one was able to see where the fence was actually going. There was some discussion about bringing the request forward again and the topic was tabled.

How the topic ever ended up on the agenda, when the Airport Commission or personnel were apparently unable to provide the details of the project, is beyond me. I hope Town Officials weren't hoping to get a quick yes vote while the public and neighbors weren't looking.

It's impossible to see if the Airport Commission has discussed or voted on this moving of the fence. The AC's agendas are almost identical for every single meeting. There is little detail and some of their discussion just slides in under "Airport Manager Report" or the grant topic that doesn't show any detail. There are no minutes on the Town website for the Airport Commission.

The Airport Commission is holding their next meeting tomorrow, Thursday March 16th, even though the agenda will not have been posted the required 48 hours. The agenda looks like every other agenda for the last few years. Maybe they are talking about the fence???

Marshfield Airport Commission
Date: Thursday March 16, 2017, 4:30 pm
Place: Terminal Building at George Harlow Airport, 93 Old Colony Lane, Marshfield, MA

ACTION AND DISCUSSION ITEMS: Assignment
1. Welcome- Chairman’s statement Commission
2. Meeting Minutes: Through March 16, 2017 Commission
3. Next Meeting: April 11, 2017

4. Revenues Through March 16, 2017 Commission
i. Shoreline -
ii. Badge Fees -
iii. FAA –
iv. MassDOT –

5. Bills to Pay: Separate attachment Commission
6. Airport Manager Report Shoreline/Airport Manager
7. CIP/AIP Projects: ASG /Airport Manager
8. Public Comments
9. ADJOURN REGULAR MEETING

EXECUTIVE SESSION
Motion: To adjourn the regular meeting for the purpose of re-opening in Executive
Session for the purpose of considering the purchase, exchange, lease or value of real
property and/or to discuss potential litigation and security related items. The regular
meeting will not be reconvened.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by Seahag » Mar Wed 15, 2017 6:45 pm

So, you, Joe, and Ms. Glavin who was also at the DPW meeting, can go and find out for yourselves, and ask pertinent questions of the Airport Commissioners. Or wait until the next DPW meeting, and see how the issue is resolved, and if you still don't like the answer, ask some more questions.
Instead of pre-supposing this, that, and the other thing.

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Re: The City of Marshfield Jetport

Post by clover » Mar Wed 15, 2017 7:46 pm

Seahag wrote:So, you, Joe, and Ms. Glavin who was also at the DPW meeting, can go and find out for yourselves, and ask pertinent questions of the Airport Commissioners. Or wait until the next DPW meeting, and see how the issue is resolved, and if you still don't like the answer, ask some more questions.
Instead of pre-supposing this, that, and the other thing.
Seahag, have you ever felt like helping even just one resident of this town? Why don't you name the neighbors who were there and who are concerned about the airport that directly abuts them? Or, do you like to just waste everyone's time with your moronic insults? Don't you have any topic to write about that might interest anyone? Do you care to make anyone more smart, or to help anyone? I posted about the fence so any others who are interested would be aware that something is going on. Not everyone remembers to read agendas, and no one has time to go to all of the various meetings. Getting information from other sources may be the only option. Also discussing how the meetings are advertised or run is also worthwhile.

Apparently you believe that telling people to stop talking is the way to go.

As I've said before, you're part of the problem Seahag. Your a hater of the good residents of this town (including the children.)

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